1937 "The Sporting News Schedule" previously 1935 W-Unc Manager Cards

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Posted By: Leon

Picked this Sporting News schedule up recently. Thought I would share (possibly to my detriment as I would refund an unhappy person that bought a card from me)with the board. These were known as "1935 W-Unc Manager" cards. It's on a medium cardboard stock. There is from top left down, then top right down: McCarthy, Cochrane, Dykes, Harris, Oneil, Cronin, Hornsby, Mack, Terry, Frisch, Grimm, Traynor, Dressen, McKechnie, Grimes, Wilson

regards

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Posted By: barrysloate

Well, it is 1937 and they are not cards, but it's a very handsome display piece.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Leon, are you saying that the 1935 W-Unc Manager cards came from this schedule piece? So they're not cards at all then and were never meant to be?

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Posted By: Andy

This is one of the many reasons why I love this board. Thank you Leon.

Thanks,

Andy

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Posted By: Leon

I am not saying it, this poster/schedule proves it. Now with that being said...I am not sure I wouldn't classify them as 1937 Sporting News W-Unc Manager cards....I have seen worse called cards. Let me pick on my favorite grading company. They (SGC) call the notebook 1910- W-Unc cards "cards", or at least they slab them as such...and everyone in the world (on this board anyway) has seen definitive proof they are cut from notebook covers...as are a few other series that come to mind..I am ok with that..These aren't a lot different, imo....Call these what you want to but they came from one of these ....best regards

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Posted By: Joann

Shoot Leon. First the W-555 camera and now this. What else you have up your sleeve??

Nice. Thanks for posting it. It amazes me how completely new and important info can still come to light so many years later.

J

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Posted By: barrysloate

What's funny, as is always the case, is as a 1937 schedule it probably has modest value. But when you cut it up into 16 pieces and destroy it, its value probably skyrockets.

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Posted By: Leon

I can't take any credit for the W555 box. That was Doug Allen-Mastro Auctions, who allowed me to share it. I was grateful that they did (and I understand publicity is good...I am not naive...but it was still nice.) I do think this 1937 Schedule piece is kind of cool...but also I am little let down they weren't true strip cards....Such goes the hobby. I am still excited to find out. regards

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Posted By: barrysloate

Leon- the display piece appears to have a crossed bat that overlaps the lower right corner of Mack's card. But your single card shows no evidence of that overlap. Could these have been available someplace other than this schedule (or is it my eyes)?

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Posted By: Leon

Nice catch on that slight difference. My guess is that it's still where they came from as the printing around all of the players looks fairly uneven. It's that way on the single cards too. I just measured the cards side by side, with the schedule, and they are the exact size and same card stock. I do find it a little curious that Mack would have had to have been cut short to etch out any of the remnants of the crossed bats. Maybe the players were in different places on different schedules? Who knows?.....regards

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Posted By: barrysloate

Or maybe the Sporting News issued this type of display calendar more than one year. Hornsby managed St. Louis from 1933 to 1937, and Mack managed the Athletics for around a hundred years, give or take.

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

seeing as an earlier thread linked to a Walter Johnson "manager card" and Johnson last managed in 1935, it is likely this format was used more than one year, which would explain why Frisch and Mack are on both and could explain why Mack's card looks slightly different on the two items--different placement or differnt surrounding design. (note that Johnson does not appear on the '37 item)

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Posted By: leon

Very good point. I forgot about Johnson being in the ones known. So we can surmise that these were made in different years. Maybe we should call them "Sporting News Unc Schedule cards" and give the circa date..At any rate it's always nice to know where cards came from.....There are still several caramel series to go......regards

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Posted By: Paul

I have a Stengel with Brooklyn. He last managed them in 1936 and was out of baseball in 1937. Sounds like these were issued over more than one year.

Leon, in your scans, the stock of the cards looks much darker than the stock of the display piece. My Stengel is consistent with your cards. Is the stock of the display piece really lighter, or is it just the scan?

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Posted By: leon

The stock is the exact same when they are physically side to side.....also, something else kind of ironic.....I see another one of these 1937 schedules in the current Hunt Auction.......It's weird how these things happen sometimes.....

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Posted By: Jason L

as long as you cut them vertically from the schedule, you are correct!

cool discovery, thanks for sharing.
And fun to follow the detective work within this thread - good catches on the details, guys!