Turkey Red Questions

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Posted By: Dave F

I really do love the look of this set. To date, I've yet to ever own one, or even hold one.

A couple quick questions...

Do the "action" cards draw any premium over the individual player cards? Or is it backwards? Do they hold less value?

What about the backs with T3's? Do any hold more of a value, or less? (I guess in my head I'm trying to keep them on the T206 level)

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Posted By: Steve f

Dave,

Player cards will cost more. I believe the checklist w/o the ad back is most rare. There was a poll on this topic not to long ago. Incidentally, I was able to find a poor Mathewson and a very poor Cobb (checklist w/ ad), both raw, for the cost of t206s. If you're a dumpster diver like myself, they are possible- for short money.

Slabbing is pricey though, $55.

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Posted By: Dave

my experience collecting T3's leads me to believe that the horizontal poses no matter what condition , usually sell for more than a regular player card. Could have something to do with the way they were distributed. People who turned in the coupons to receive a card probably were requesting well known players of the day, and the horizontal cards just weren't popular back then.
As far as common players go, I have had a trouble finishing the Pittsburgh players from the T3 set.
not that it's a big secret, but there are a load of decent T3's on ebay right now. they look to be in Good-VG/EX condition, so some of them might actually be affordable for a change.
I'm not sure if the non-checklist back is considered that rare anymore. I have 12 T3's with that back, and 12 with the checklist back.
the boxing cards are often overlooked in this set, and are tougher to find than the baseball players in my experience.

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Posted By: Dave F

I guess my original question of are the actions cards worth more....I meant on the level of a "Out at Third" or " A close play at second"...in PSA 1's would they draw more than a Ames PSA 1 or a Schulte PSA 1? It not, I'm a little surprised.

I guess though with these being some of the horizontal's available they would draw a little more value...

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Posted By: Mark

Dave,
Generally, yes, the action cards will cost more than a common player in the same condition. However, there are some players that are more difficult to find, and can easily cause them to bring as much or more than the action cards. Some of these are Rhoades, considered the most difficult by many collectors, Myers, and Wilson. There are several others.

Most people have come to realize that the Turkey Red backs are not really that difficult. Although they may sometimes bring a premium, in most cases they shouldn't.

Mark

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Posted By: jay wolt

I agree w/ Mark's assesment.
The action cards like Safe At Third, Out At Third, Jordan & Herzog, Close Play at Second, Trying To Catch Him Napping, Jack Murray At Bat & Chief Myers At Bat do bring a premium since less are out there.
Other horizontal shots may bring a premium as well albeit a smaller one
like Boss Schmidt & E. Lennox.

There are 5 different backs in the set.
The only one that brings (& deserves) a premium is the very tough
checklist back w/ no ordering information. I have 115 diff T3 & T9's
but only 3 w/ that back.
The ad backs are only issued in the high # series (#77-126) so in essence
they are a bit tougher then the checklist back overall. But as far as the
high series goes many of the players are easier in ad back like Walter
Johnson and some are much tougher in checklist back like Bob Rhodes.
I will pay no premium for a card I need w/ an ad back, and almost half
of all the high #'s I have are ad backs.

Here are a couple of action cards that I just landed this week.

#43 Out At Third

#45 Jordan & Herzog