SGC vs. GAI vs. PSA for Ty Cobbs T206

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Posted By: pete

Here's what I have
Ty Cobb SGC 50/4 Bat off shoulder
Ty Cobb SGC 50/4 Green Portrait
Ty Cobb GAI 4 Bat on shoulder
Ty Cobb PSA 4 Red Portrait

I'd like to have all 4 graded by the same grader...what grading company should I use to maintain the current grade?
thanks!
pete-

my best pitch was the one that made it to the plate!

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

If you truly want to maintain the current grades...

then I think you would HAVE to go with GAI...

because I don't think SGC or PSA would crossover the GAI 4 into a 4 slab of their own.



Obviously they MIGHT... but the odds are much better for you trying to crossover in the other direction.

After all, SGC and PSA want to project an image of being better and stricter than GAI (maybe they really are, I don't know)...

but I think that being VERY strict on GAI graded cards is something that they are going to do intentionally in order to preserve their market share.

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Posted By: JimCrandell

I agree with Hal. You would have to break out the card out of the GAI holder and submit it raw to have anything other than a small chance of it crossing at an equal grade.

Jim

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Posted By: Anson

I haven't had that experience with the things I've crossed over to SGC. GAI cards ALWAYS crossed over with the like grade from SGC. The only exception I could see happening is losing 1/2 a grade with GAI's ".5" system. I think you would be safe moving them to SGC. From what I've seen, the PSA anti-GAI thing doesn't really hold water.

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Posted By: Josh K.

I have had many gai graded cards cross over into the same/equivalent sgc slab. Ive even had a few tweeners cross up from gai to sgc (for example, a 2.5 to a 3) - however, those are also the grades where you are most likely to have a down grade (the half grades that sgc does not have an equivalent for - ie 2.5, 3.5, 4.5).

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Posted By: Josh K.

I agree with Anson - if I felt that the card deserved the equivilent grade, I usually dont crack it out when I send it to sgc. I have never had them downgrade a card from gai unless it was one of the half grades that they dont have. On the other hand, I have had several psa 4s downgraded to sgc 40s). The only time I will crack a card out is if it is a half grade and I think it might bump up a grade - then I agree that you are more likely to get a bump up if SGC has no information as to the original grade.

I should also add that based on the value of your cards, you will have to crack them out to submit to sgc anyway as they no longer cross over cards valued at more than 500. They will of course still grade your cards, just not at the crossover service level.

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Posted By: cmoking

On their website, they say they won't crossover cards valued over $500. However, I think I read where they made an exception for someone. So maybe you can contact them to see if they will make an exception for you. By the way, I hate exceptions - either do it or don't do it - why make some people special and others non-special? I don't see the harm in crossing over cards valued over $500.

If you were going to take a risk and crack them out - I'd say go with SGC. In my opinion, you WON'T get the same consistent grades from GAI - you'll get them in 4.5s probably! That's not necessarily a bad thing, but now you won't have consistent 4s across the line.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Because some of us ARE special

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Posted By: Josh K.

Im guessing SGC has made "exceptions" in the past based on the fact that the $500 limit is a fairly recent change and people are still sending them high valued cards for crossover. Rather than send them back simply to make the submitter crack them out and resend, they have made some exceptions. I dont know if they are reviewing the cards under the crossover submission level or the proper level had the cards been submitted raw.

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Posted By: Lyle

at the Fort Washington show this past weekend . They included a PSA 4 Sports Kings and PSA 4 Bat Off T206 - both Cobbs , of course .