Network 54 Top (50/100) Baseball Cards?

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Posted By: John

I had an Idea.

Someone not too long ago gave me a copy of PSA’s “The Top 200 Sports cards In The Hobby” it got me thinking with all the amazing collections here on the forum. Maybe we could build a web page showcasing the top 50 or 100 cards of the network 54 forum. I will offer my services to host the images and build a page using my Imagevent service. Once approved then Leon could add it to the links if he thinks its cool.

Of course all cards on the page will give kudos to the respective owner of the card as well as a link to his or her web page if they have one. If the owner wishes to remain anonymous we could just say from a private netwrok54 collection or something.

I know Jay did something kind of close with the Baseball Card HOF. I would also like to list the help of some of you with creating the list obviously.

I think this would be a neat site how do you guys feel. If so then I guess it’s a matter of getting a list of the cards together, and if it should be kept to 50 or 100 cards. Then once the list is made the owners could email the images or I could borrow them from their web page.

Let me know if you think this a silly idea?

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Posted By: AParks

I like the idea, John. I'm not sure if any of my cards would make it on the site. However, I would love to see others' cards.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

I guess ill be the first one to comment on Johns silly idea. I believe its the best idea youve ever had,which isnt saying much


Who is going to decide which the best 100 cards are,are you going to have some type of voting? I would think you would have so many cards to choose from that you might as well set that number higher,or you could take over the baseball card HOF from Jay which basically was building up to your goal set forth in this thread.

I'll help you anyway i can,and wont charge much

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Posted By: John

John thanks for your support and bite me.

Any ideas you or anyone else has please feel free to let me know. And as always John you will receive your project T-Shirt.

I think this is different from the baseball card HOF that’s Jay’s baby no intrest in taking over that at all. This would be more of showcase of the best of all the collectors here with links to them if they want. Almost a virtual museum. So your saying 100 is the number, 50 would be too few.

If the idea is accepted by all I will start a thread for voting.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Narrowing it down to 100 is going to leave alot of good cards out.I would say breaking it down into categories and doing top 10 lists,like top 10 error cards,top 10 ty cobb cards etc etc.

Maybe have a page of 1-5 for low level Hall of Famers and 10 for the top tier guys? Then you could put a top 100 list from those cards.Im just trying to give you extra work because i think it would be cool to have a site like that and im not doing it on my own(more like cant do)

PS FOR JOHN ONLY: ill be in Philadelphia all day friday,maybe ill see you there,its not that big of a town is it?

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Posted By: John

Good ideas, yeah 100 cards might be tough. Thanks for the extra work if this takes off.

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Posted By: identify7

Frequently the term best somehow becomes "most costly". I'd vote for catagories such as best, best <$1000, <$100 etc.

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Posted By: Josh Krasner

all good ideas - I particularly like John's idea about top 10 cobbs, and similar top 10 lists. I think the top ten cards undera and over 1k (or other amounts) would also fit well. I do think that list such as these tend to gravitate toward high dollar cards, so it would be nice if some of us with collections not comprised of psa 7s -10s or ultra rare cards could get our cards pictured/included.

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Posted By: FatBoy

Maybe we could all "submit" (list) our 1-3 personal "best"?

Maybe then vote?

Maybe just make a site with 1-3 slots where we could each showcase what we consider our best?

Maybe just provide a link to JC's site?

Keith

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Posted By: John

I do want it to be somewhat limited no need for 5000 images to be uploaded here. Around 200 or so?Remember links will be provided to the owners website so you can share even more card there. I like the idea of Top 10 Cobbs but where do we draw the line at which player gets his own top 10? Is the cut off Lajoie, Waddell etc?

What do you think of the breakdown below?

Top 20 Checklist Stoppers: The usual suspects Magie, Plank, Mitchell, Loudermilk, Lajoie etc.

Top 50 19th century cards: N172’s, N173’s, N300’s etc.

Top 50 20th Century cards: T206’s, E107’s, E98 overprints, T212’s etc.

Top 25-50 One-of-a-kinds: Extremely low pop cards, Cabinets etc.

Top 25-50 Collector Grade Cards: Not necessarily high-dollar cards but, image quality, obscure, Unc cards etc. Pride & Joys of collectors who are budget bound (me).


Good Idea too Keith. That could be the last gallery listed below.

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Posted By: jamie

can i make a humble suggestion that all final images be water-marked so that they are not 1) stolen for bogus auctions or 2) used by counterfeiters to print up bogus copies? i know the members here have high quality collections and id hate to see them being manipulated by our scammer friends (who seem to at least monitor this board)

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Posted By: John

Way ahead of you good point, all images will be watermarked and right clicking will be disabled. That’s why I disabled right click on my site didn’t want to see my cards on ebay.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I doubt any of my cards would make the museum, but if you added a memorabilia wing to the museum.....

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Posted By: jay behrens

John, the problem youa re going to run into is that the niminations are not going to neccessarily be the best, but the most valuable and cards with lots of publicity. This pretty much turned out to be the case with BBCard HOF. You can use the cards from there as a perfect example. You practically have to beg and plead with people to take notice of a card that doesn't feature a HOFer or a 4 digit price tag.

You can cut the list pretty much in half by automatically defaulting in the Big 4 t206, Big 3 t207, e90-1 Mitchell and Jax, t205 Joss, just about every n162, OJs of Anson in uni, Ewing w/mascot and whole bunch of other HOFers, 33 Goudey Lajoie, all the Ruths and Gehrigs, 34 Goudey Gehrig, 41 Playballs of DiMAggio and Williams and grip of HOFers from the e107 set like Matty, Wagner, etc. After that, you left with about 20 or few slots for the truely interesting cards that have been issued like the Oakes, Arbuckle, Hengle deadman pose, invisible bike guy from t210, etc.

I wish you luck on it, but a project like this doesn't interest me anymore after the experience with trying to keep the card HOF going. Most people have little imagination to nominate cards outside of HOFers and the most expensive and publicized cards in the hobby.

Jay

I like to sit outside drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: John

Jay;

Thanks for the advice; my plan is to get the big-ticket stuff up and out of the way. That should be easy to fill those slots (granted people who own the cards will let me use images). Then I can focus on more obscure cool cards. But don’t get me wrong my plan is the best of the best so there are going to be some big dollar cards that will take slots. Museums put their best most obscure historic stuff on display. Right now I just need thumbs up from collectors to use images, and a working list of some sort too.

And I also need to feel that people want to see such an online museum filled with expensive, rare and obscure items. If not then I wont even bother staring the project if there’s no interest.

I think memorabilia could be a neat gallery too.

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Posted By: Andrew Parks

Allow me to nominate the first candidate for voting. It is an extremely scrutinized card and famous in its own right because of an incredibly dubious distinction. AP13 gives you the prize of his collection. The much maligned, much observed, and much conversed upon lump of paper with some ink on it - not to mention the fact that this illustrious piece of cardboard passed through the hands of one well-respected and well-published auctioneer. Who else's hands could it have gone through? Buck Ewing's himself? Barry Halper's? Keith Olberman's? Maybe even the mysterious Mr. X's? Only to obviously end up with the illustrious movie celebrity, Edward Scissorhands...who...well, you know the story...

Julie and gentlemen, I give you the Network 54's Hope Diamond...its T206 Wagner...its diamond in the rough...here it is...



The N29 Buckster himself.

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Posted By: John

Is it me or does that card look at little short right to left?

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Posted By: Julie

be represented. HOFers have a mystique that other cards don't--though other cards may be more beautiful. Voting is a mess, but not-voting would give only one person's (or even a small group's) preferences.

It SOUNDS like a great idea, but is it really7?

Personally, I wouldn't want to look at Fatty, or Deadman, or even Satchelman, all day...

Maybe the reason we have websites is so that each of our prejudices can be thoroughly aired...not that I would even HAVE one without Ben.

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Posted By: Rob

I don't have an extensive collection (I just started to collect 'the good stuff' just 4 months ago), but I wouldn't mind donating the images of my N28 Kelly or T-206 Elberfeld(Wash.,POR), unless, of course, someone else has a better copy (and probably does).

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Posted By: Josh K.

I like the idea of our own top 3 or 5. Eliminates the voting and lets you see what is in actual collections - not just dream cards. I dont think it would get too big - heck if you limited it to 100 board members and three cards each, thats only 300 cards - Im not sure we even have 100 active board members.

Anyway, that would give some of us w/o a website a chance to show off our cards and contributed at the same time. Maybe you can then select (as website host) your top 10 "best of the best" out of all the cards submitted to add a little competition.

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Posted By: John

I do want this to be pretty limited I really want to showcase the best of the best from collections here. I realize by doing so it may limit many of us from contributing to certain sections myself included.

However I do like the idea of a section for 1 or 2 of everyone on the board here’s favorite cards with their names so people could know what people are collecting.

We could call it Board Favorites or something.

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Posted By: Rob

Even one from each member should make it a well diversified collection.

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Posted By: John

Believe me I would love to have 50 from each member just trying to keep my workload down if this is something that people would like to see.

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Posted By: Kieran

I love the idea of having a board website showcasing the best of the best...since my limited collection wont make the top 10 of any list (unless non HOFers become super super hot) I am willing to offer up any of my web development skills to help this idea become a reality.

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Posted By: John

Julie I agree voting is a tough one as Jay said too. If the consensus of the board is that this sounds cool. Then my idea is to start another thread where you can post yours or someone else’s cards in a list of top 10 or 20 cards.

Something like this:

Example:
1.) Hal’s PSA BLANK
2.) Leon’s Blank
3.) JC’s Blank
4.) Julie’s BLANK
5.) Adam’s BLANK
6.) VETKEKbob’s Blank
Etc.

Then list the 2 favorite cards of your own that you would like to be in the collector section.

This should give me plenty to start with and then we can plug and add to the site as we go one card at a time if we feel we forgot a card.

Then I will go to those people and ask if they are interested in participating in the project, and If can steal images from their websites or have them send me some pics.

How does that sound guys?

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Posted By: barry arnold

I like very much your idea and offering to make it happen, John.
This way everyone gets a chance to show their wares without voting.
Voting reminds me too much of the days when you lined up on the
playground to get picked for the softball team and Hal always got
picked fast and I got picked late middle to end

Sorry for the neurosis.

Super idea, John.

all the best

Barry Arnold

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Posted By: Rob

How many members post regularly? It can't be more than 100. I think we could start off with "My best card" per person and go from there.

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Posted By: leon

I think my Blank should be ahead of Hal's Blank .....Mine is in a PRO 9 spivvy keen holder.....regards

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Posted By: John

Noted for the record Leon’s Blank is graded higher.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Julie, how could you get bored looking at Arbuckle, Hengle deadman and invisible bike guy? Looking at these cards always brings a smile to me because they are so goofy. The Jennings yelling card is just about the only HOFer that has a non-standard pose. That's why I really find nothing special about HOFer cards beyond their name. They are so boring and nondescript, expcet the Jennings. I guess my t206 Johnson brings a smile to my face, but that's mostly beucase someone took the time to carefully trim the card around his head to make it look die-cut

Jay

I like to sit outside drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: Wesley

Great idea, John. I can't wait to see some of the nominations.