Matty McIntyre Photo--Need ID help

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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Hi all,
I won a few photos off Ebay from the Matty McIntyre estate album. On the back of one was a photo of three gents in street clothes. I'm almost 100% certain the the guy in the middle is McIntyre based on comparisons with some cards of his, but I haven't been able to ID the other two. Any help would be appreciated. I've included a couple of scans below

Thanks,
Adam

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Posted By: Rhys

To his left, your right, is Germany Schaefer. Almost every picture I won had photos of Schaefer in them as he and McIntyre were good friends. I cont think of the other guy right now.

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Posted By: Scott

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Posted By: Dan B

You just helped me identify the last of my unidentified Matty pics. That picture leaves no doubt that my photo is of Ed Killian.

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Posted By: Scott

That McIntyre Estate photo album was incredible - I would have loved to have seen it before John "the butcher from Arkansas" Rogers got hold of it. John doesn't even wield his scissors well.

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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Rhys, Scott, thanks for the ID help. The Schaefer looks spot on and the guy to McIntyre'
s right does look an awful lot like Killian. So I'll go with Killian, McIntyre, and Schaefer . The album in it's entirety must have been an awesome sight and now it's separated forever. Also, many of the photos were trimmed out of the album very haphazardly as well, with some photos on the reverse of others being trimmed in half...or worse. Kind of a shame, and in hindsight I almost feel a little guilty for participating in the auction. At the very least, I can do my part and take care of the ones I have.

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Posted By: Scott

The seller, John Rogers, is infamous for this tactic - he makes his money buying items that he can chop into pieces. The Chadwick scorebooks are another example of a Rogers chop-job. I didn't participate in the Chadwick "individual page" auctions for the reason you cite - perhaps I should have avoided the album page auction as well. Thoughts?

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I just wish I had seen the album on Leland's before I saw the pictures on ebay. The entire album sold for less than $4,000. I think he made over $25,000 by chopping it up. He made his money back with the 1905 team photo. IMO it sucks that he did that with the album, but he's a dealer and not a collector so he's not really going to respect the history of an item if he can make money on it by disassembling it. I don't feel guilty about buying some of the photo's though, because it was already broken up anyway. I figured here was my chance to obtain some one of a kind 100 year old photos of Major league players taken by a major leaguer. I may be the only person to own a photo of Jimmy Archer in a Tiger's uniform (aside from the 1907 team photo).

Dan

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Posted By: Scott

If I had seen it on Lelands's I would have definitely bid...provided the description was indicative of the content - sometimes you just get lucky with Leland's.