1962 Factory Set

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Posted By: Alan

I have the complete set of 1962 Topps Baseball cards in what I consider perfect condition almost every card is sharp and they had not moved in about 40 years. They came in 5 Blue boxes each holding its proportion of cards. The boxes are from Topps. I have never seen anything like this before and I do not know what added value this has, but it does seem to be a 1962 topps factory set. My great uncle was a scout for the indians and worked for spalding getting those autographs on the gloves and all. Can anyone let me know what the value or signifcance may be?

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Posted By: Tbob

Alan- you may have a gold mine there. '62s are extremely condition sensitive. I am not sure what premium the display sets have over regular NMT cards but you have two choices: either bust it up, have the high dollar cards graded or sell them as a group (set). Good luck.
Bob
P.S. Having sold some NRMT '62s before, as much as I am not all that thrilled with grading companies in general, I think getting them graded is the way to go to bring top dollar if the conditions are that nice.

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Posted By: Alan

Do you know what the blue boxes from topps are?

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Posted By: Alan

Any Idea on value, even ballpark value, excuse the pun

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Posted By: Nickinvegas

Unless there is some special set that I have never heard of, Topps did not package factory sets in 1962. Perhaps a collector put the set together and labled the box?

Any pictures of the set would be helpfull...

Any mint 62's would be worth a small fortune.

Nick

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Posted By: Alan

I am almost certain these boxes are from topps, I will hae to take a photo, They are very interesting but I am certain they are topps. How much is a small fortune, I am looking to part with them for college

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Posted By: petecld

I've heard of sets like this before. Going from memory here so I could be wrong but ...

They were called "Presentation Sets". I understand they were special sets packaged for vendors and VIPs. They did these sets from 1958 to 1963.

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Posted By: Nickinvegas

Send me an e-mail. I have a shop and I often buy sets from the 1960's

Nickinvegas@netscape.net

Regards,
Nick

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Posted By: Alan

That may be it Pete, Like I said my great uncle was in baseball for many many years and he is mostlikely the source of these cards

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Posted By: jay behrens

Most likely a presentation set. 5 boxes sounds like it may be one per series, which seem to be about right for 1962. This definately something that is of great interest to a collectors. Another option to consider is consigning it to an auction house like Mastro, Robert Edwards, etc.

Jay

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Posted By: tbob

Definitely sounds like a presentation set. I haven't seen a 1962 set before but the 1961 presentation sets have fetched huge sums in auction. You might contact Doug Allen at Mastro for his advice as to which way would bring the most money. Normally you would think consigning a presentation set to mastro would bring the greatest return but if you could get some PSA 9s and even 10s out of the high number cards and stars in the set, the sky might be the limit.
Not sure of Doug's email address, it could be dallen@mastronet.com, but you can go to the website for mastro and get it there.

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Posted By: steve k

What a magnificent find. Since there were not any factory sets issued by Topps in 1962 and it probably is some sort of presentation set, I imagine that as well as the spectacular condition, the cards are probably all nicely centered. That set for a number of 1960's Topps collectors is the most popular set of the 1960's. In the condition you say it is in, you could be looking at $50,000 - $100,000+ at an auction.

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Posted By: HalleyGator

Is your blood racing now!!!

It should be.

This is the time when you take a deep breath ... cross your fingers ... and say a prayer that your uncle didn't take out a ball-point pen and draw moustaches on Mantle and Mays!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Nickinvegas

I guess I am out of the loop on this "Presentation Set" concept.

Could someone enlighten me? Was it sold that way from Topps? Was it only for select persons(Fiends of MLB/Topps Presidents...)?

Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

Nick

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Posted By: steve k

Nick - A family friend worked as a sales rep for Globe Ticket Company in the 60's and 70's. Globe has printed zillions of sports tickets for MLB and others. They made-up presentation sets(kits) containing an assortment of tickets to illustate the quality, variety, paper stock, etc., for him to show to prospective buyers. He was also given overuns to hand out as samples of interesting special tickets such as the Kentucky Derby - the tickets were unnumbered so they couldn't actually be used at the sporting event. Probably Topps also made-up some sort of presentation sets for their sales reps to show, or to display in other situations for promotional puposes.

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Posted By: steve k

Nick - A family friend worked as a sales rep for Globe Ticket Company in the 60's and 70's. Globe has printed zillions of sports tickets for MLB and others. They made-up presentation sets(kits) containing an assortment of tickets to illustate the quality, variety, paper stock, etc., for him to show to prospective buyers. He was also given overuns to hand out as samples of interesting special tickets such as the Kentucky Derby - the tickets were unnumbered so they couldn't actually be used at the sporting event. Probably Topps also made-up some sort of presentation sets for their sales reps to show, or to display in other situations for promotional puposes.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

My understanding is that they were hand collated with special focus on the centering and quality of the cards, put into custom boxes, and given to a selection of people inside the card process and/or baseball industry. Because of the premium Topps put on card selection, they tend to yield an unusually large number of 8-9-10 cards when slabbed.

Alan, go with an auction house--you will make the most that way with the least effort. And be sure to negotiate down the commission. A set like this is a primo item that will generate thousands in buyers' premiums, so the auctioneers should take little to no commission from you.

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Posted By: Aaron M.

Alan:

1. Do NOT sell the cards to a dealer. They will pay you far less than the cards are worth, as they look to turn a profit.

2. Do NOT break up the set. If it's a presentation set, then the collection will bring a premium at auction if it's intact (especially if some of the individual star cards are PSA graded as indicative of the set's condition).

3. DO consign your cards to the major auction house: Mastronet.com. (You can contact them via their website.) I think you still have enough time to submit the item to them before their next auction at the end of August. They will handle everything for you: pictures, description, grading, etc., and then list your set in their full color-glossy catalog and their Internet site which ensures the widest exposure to top collectors (even more so than E-Bay, which is more bargain driven).

Good luck!

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Posted By: HalleyGator

Is it immoral for me to now offer him the same $100 "sight unseen" price that I was willing to pay the old lady at the minor league game for her shoebox full of "Ruths and old cigarette cards"??

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Posted By: Greg Buckley

And as an officer of the court, you must know that even the appearance of impropriety must be avoided.

Go Gators!

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Posted By: HalleyGator

Curses ... foiled again.

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Posted By: Julie

signed by prominent Yankees because itr wasn't pre war, but this '62 set is getting the full treatment.

$$ talks. Of course, I listen!

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Posted By: alan

Thanks for your help everyone. I have now recieved a ton of emails regarding the cards. I looked through them again last night. Most of theme have four sharp corners I noticed a few that are off center one more then others. The Mantle, Clemente, mays and other stars, look in great condition. The five blue boxes look brandnew. I apologize to Julie I believe the name is, I did not realize that it the board was for pre war only. I think I apologized in another one of my posts. THis is my first time posting to any message board. I really appreciate the emails and posts, it almost makes me want to sell my other cards and start collecting 62's it looks like I have a good start. Oh and Julie if it helps I have a bat I also found at my grandmothers house, It is a L. Slugger, bright green, it was still in the brown wrapping paper when I found it, I have it in a bat tube now. It says philadelphia athletics and has the engraved signature of charles finley or omally something like that, who I believe was the owner at the time. Any idea on value?

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Posted By: jay behrens

I'm not a bat expert, but off the top of my head, I can't recall ever seeing a Connie Mack bat. I got to see Mike Montbriand's collection and didn't see one there. But then again, I doubt I saw all the bats he owned.

Jay

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Posted By: AL Lange

Hi,

You might want to take a look here -
http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20Information&LotIndex=35934&CurrentRow=1

Although it is a different year, it might help give some idea of value.

Keep in mind the grading fees & sellers consignment fees.

-AL