Allstar Baseball 1910

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Posted By: Scott

I've had one or two requests to see some of the images from the set I had mentioned in my first post to this board.

I am happy to share a couple of the images with you if thats okay... This is my first attempt to post images into the forum so bear with me if the first attempt or two fails!

Ty Cobb

Honus Wagner

Regards,

Scott

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Posted By: dan mckee

Scott! 2 incredible cards! thanks bunches for sharing these with the board. I love them. Dan

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Posted By: petecld

Scott,

GREAT cards!!! Thanks for posting the images. First time I've ever seen these cards - and they are full panels! Thanks

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Posted By: Julie

except the Buchner Gold Coin and the '43 M.P.s?

Dandy cards! I'm not familiar with the set, but I have a feeling Leon wasn't sure you had them!

Hey--great scanner, too.

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Posted By: jay behrens

How dare you know denigrate the 1943 MP & Co set. A bunch of kindegartners put a lot of hard work into that project. And all for the promise of choclate milk at lunch.

Jay

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Posted By: quan

Very cool indeed, always neat to see something new.

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Posted By: leon

Very cool cards......do all of the ones you have have the full panel?.....

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Posted By: Scott

for the compliments on the cards..

Unfortunately, only a couple of the ones I have appear to be the full side panel of the original candy box.

The majority of the ones I have were cut from the package along the borders but done very evenly.

Apart from that, they are all in the same condition as the cards I scanned in.

I'd be happy to scan the others in my collection if you'd like to see them either individually or on the board.

Scott

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Posted By: Scott

Forgot to add... my scanner is a small Canon FB620U flatbed scanner... it does do a pretty good job seeing as I bought it for about $75.00

It probably does TOO good a job as I've been scanning a few other things from my collection and have noticed that it sure is unforgiving on the slightest creases or stains

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Posted By: Scott

Leon... I thought a little more about your question.

As I mentioned, several of the others I have in the set were trimmed but only along the side borders of the picture. If by "full panel" you mean that they are in tact from top to bottom then the answer is yes.

Heres the rest of the set (less the two I don't own):

Johnny Bates

Heinie Beckendorf

Joe Birmingham

Al Burch

Donnie Bush

Frank Chance

Wid Conroy

Jack Coombs

George Gibson

Dick Hoblitzel

Johnny Kling

Ed Lennox

Connie Mack

Christy Mathewson

Matty Mcintyre

Al Schweitzer

Jimmy Sheckard

Bill Sweeney

Terry Turner

Harry Wolter

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Posted By: Julie

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Posted By: Scott

When my father and I came across these in the 70s we had always suspected that the notches were because they were part of some type of candy packaging but had no way to confirm this.

There is a picture in the Standard Catalogue (at least its in the year 2000 edition) with the set descrption that shows an in tact box.

There were two players with each box. The one with the notch on the side you are supposed to open the box from. The other player is on the panel on the opposite side.

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Posted By: leon

Scott- that's an awesome set you have there. Thanks for sharing. It must be the best set there is of these obscure little gems. Not sure if I mentioned it but my type from the set is a full Chance just like yours. I WAS referring to the fact that they have the "ALL STAR" logo at the top. The sides being trimmed would not be that immportant (to me) as they had to be trimmed from the candy box.

Julie- the cards with the notch at top came from the other side of the candy box that the top flap was tucked into....therefore, one side (card) would be square at top and the other would have the notch. I guess as a purist I still need a notched variety...My only speciman is Chance with the full ALLSTAR logo at top...and I had to pay a lot for it

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Posted By: Scott

Thanks again for the compliment on the near complete set.

I wont ask what you paid for your Chance but I will say that, as I mentioned before, It pains me that I sold off all of my doubles for my house downpayment.

Part of what I sold were a couple of doubles from this set (about 4 or 5 cards) that were basically "throw ins" to a lot which I gave to Robert Edwards auctions back in the early 90s...

If people on the board wont take it as bragging, I'd love to post a few other of my favorite items from my collection.

I've decided to start scanning in several items and am planning on putting together a web page when I can find the time.

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Posted By: Ben

I think I can speak for the board by saying that we'd love to see more of your collection- this thread is all yours so go for it!

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Posted By: runscott

Why are these cards considered so cool, when the e90-1's and other issues Julie mentioned are considered so ugly? (by board members).

The knock on the e90-1's was that most of them don't resemble the actual players - do you really think these candy box pictures look like Cobb and Wagner?

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Posted By: Hankron

Scott, enjoy seeing your scans. But my recommendation would be to include text or similar on the high quality scans, unless you want your cards being offered on eBay in the near future.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Would love to see more of your collection, and I am sure Leon would too. It'll take some ehat off him for all his bragging :-p

Jay

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Posted By: Hankron

Excluding offering all those baseball card images, the best thing the Library of Congress could have done would to have put some over text somewhere on the cards images ('Library of Congress' or such) ... Considering that a large fraction of the fakes and homemade reprints on eBay and Yahoo were made from the LOC's images.

A woman recently offered on eBay a small tin button she made from a unique photo I had online, and do you know I did? ... I bought the button because it looked pretty neat

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Posted By: Hankron

If you follow vintage movie photos on eBay, the sellers often put large overtext in the images of the rare but usually inexpensive stills and press photos ... The seller is basically saying, "If you want the image, buy the damn photo"

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Posted By: Julie

Does that work, or do you have to have it right ON the
thing? Yes--show us MORE!

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Posted By: Hankron

I think you only really have to worry about added text when the image is of high quality and the item is unique and special enough to be steal-worthy. My point is that Scott's images are of such high quality that they were born to be made into someone else's reprints. Most of those eBay service images are of lesser quality, so it's not a big deal.

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Posted By: Craig D

As a T3 collector, I immediately recognized the images of this set coming directly from Turkey Reds. For instance, the Cobb is Mitchell in T3, the Wagner is Lajoie. The Bates is T3 McIntyre-Det, Birmingham is T3 Chase, Burch is T3 Brown, Bush is T3 McConnell, Conroy is T3 Sallee, Coombs is T3 Krause, Hoblitzell is T3 McIntyre-Brklyn, Lennox is T3 Crawford, Mack is T3 Stahl, Mathewson is T3 Willis, McIntyre is T3 Devlin, Sheckard is T3 Donovan, Turner is T3 Young and Wolter is T3 Waddell. The action shots are also taken from the action cards in the 1st T3 series -1-76. I'm sure a few others have noticed this, but I thought I'd put in my two cents. Thanks

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Posted By: Scott

Thanks for the advice.. as unfortunate as it is to have to worry about such things, its probably pretty good advice...

I've added my contact information to the scans that I've posted...

Based on the warm reception, I'll probably post a few other of my favorites from my collection in another thread (after the Eagles game tonight!)

Craig, thanks for the information tying the poses into the T-3 set.. I don't have many T-3s but one that I do have is probably my favorite card.. a T-3 Walter Johnson which I'm planning on scanning and posting.

Regards to all and thanks for your feedback on my cards.

Scott

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Posted By: petecld

Craig,

Thank You! I noticed the T3 connection as well and I was making a list but not being a T3 collector I was having trouble finding images.

Thank you.

Pete

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Posted By: brian p

These All-Star cards are all neat and different, and thanks for sharing (I pretty much hadn't seen any of these before), but if they were as common as a E90-1 or E95 they would be viewed as even more artistically challlenged than the E91 set discussed in a previous thread, and would sell dirt cheap. They don't even come close to depicting the actual player, even if they are based on T3 poses.

I still think they are pretty neat--just be glad that they are so rare...if the time comes when you ever want to sell them. Don't take this as a knock on your cards, just an observation I felt needed to be brought to attention. Thanks for sharing, and hope to see more...

Brian

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Posted By: Scott

Thanks for your feedback.. I don't view it as a knock at all.

I agree totally and mentioned in my first post that I knew the set wasn't too popular because of its artwork depictions as well as its scarcity.

My main purpose was to share them with the board and see if I could find anyone else who might possibly have these cards and, in particular, the two that I am lacking from the set.

If nothing else, I'm happy to share a few items from my collection because they've been sitting locked away for too long and my kids (7 and 5) are too young to appreciate them just yet

Since I was encouraged to share a few other items, I will do so in another thread... Thanks to everyone who responded on this one!

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Posted By: dan mckee

I have Connie Mack

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Posted By: Brian H

Just thought I would note that the use of term "All Star" is rather interesting at this early date since the first all-star game was in or around 1934.

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Posted By: Todd

remember that the 1917 Collins-McCarthy "Baseball Hall of Fame" set was issued nearly twenty years prior to any plans for the Cooperstown Hall of Fame.