1 of 1 T205 joss RARE!

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Posted By: Anonymous

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31 719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1


How much worse could this have been trimmed?

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Posted By: Julie

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Posted By: dave m

It looks like the first ever die cut.

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Posted By: Rob L

It actually looks like a a piece of a T202 triple folder. It's fairly common that the T202 are trimmed and sold as T205.

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Posted By: Ben

Actually, Joss wasn't in the t202 set...

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Posted By: Rob L

Thanks. I stand corrected.

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Posted By: Julie

I have the t205 Joss, too. Also, almost the whole T202 set--Ben's right--unfortunately, there's no Joss.

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Posted By: Julie

Dots of missing paper (or pigment) on face and interior of card seem very regularly spaced...spot of missing color above the right-side printing reminds me of...my card! As does the color distribution on the mouth (indiosyncratic to indivisual cards...)

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Posted By: ramram

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

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Posted By: Ben

Do you mean to tell me you typed out that ENTIRE URL??? Ok, for next time, simply highlight the URL, then press ctrl-C (copy). Then, go to your address bar at the top of your screen (where it says http://) and press ctrl-V (paste) and then enter.

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Posted By: Julie

The mouth and the dot on my card are different. Also: the transitions between colors are smoother. I believe it's a fake (such as it is!)

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Posted By: runscott

If your girlfriend is ever looking at your Cobbs and says "I'd like a blue one", you could be ready to meet her needs!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784934515&category=31719

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Posted By: jay behrens

I love the "...will go well with you other reproductions." LMAO!!!!

Jay

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Posted By: Julie

Seller of the "blue" Cobb clearly states that's it's a reproduction and "one of a kind.'" (well, maybe that's a little of an oximoron)LOL (that's the only one I know.

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Posted By: Dave

Julie,

Indications of laughing using web-speak can take many forms:

LOL - Laugh out Loud
ROFL - Rolling on Floor Laughing
LMAO - Laugh My Ass Off

Dave

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Posted By: Julie

David Rudd's post ("early photographers list") about watching the superbowl next Sunday made me LMAO!

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Posted By: Dave

Here's a card that is one end of a T202. Check out the cut on the right. Looks like a pretty clean tear against a straight edge. I don't see how this could ever pass as a T205. Much smaller (same size as the inside?), missing the gold, and the back is different - doesn't say series 400. Also missing team symbol and letter.

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Posted By: brian p

I know there are some admirers of the T202 set on the board, but I've always thought that, instead of that "revolutionary' tri-fold design, that the T202's end panels would have made a great set without the middle b/w section and its fellow mate on the other side. Just think, a regular tobacco card size that combines both the white borders of the T206 with the great portrait art and decorative backgrounds of the T205.

Of course, you can collect such a set just by checking out ebay for all the identified (and non-identified) panels--and it wouldn't cost you an arm and a leg. But my guess it would still be quite a challenge.

Brian

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Posted By: runscott

sorry - couldn't resist.

The first tobacco card I ever saw, other than photos of the famous t206 green portrait Cobb and t205 Cobb, was a t206 Dan McGann - fairly boring, but enought to get me interested. Next I purchased a "3 piece" t202 with ends separate - Jennings and McGraw. To me, this was absolutely the coolest card I had ever seen. I couldn't see how it's being cut up could be a bad thing - if I was a kid and had a pile of these, I think I would have cut them up almost immediately.

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Posted By: Dave

L M A O

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

A picture is (s0ometimes)worth a bunch of words. Great
black-and-white photography, plus the beautiful lithography of the T205 set.

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Posted By: Dave

Julie,

Beautiful cards.

I wish my T205's were near the quality of my Johnson (the card, of course). This card came as part of an original collection from a relative that smoked (a long time ago, in Virginia). This story truely includes a trunk in the attic of the original collector. None of my cards have ever been sold. I lost my collector's virginity this last weekend and bought my first ever card (on ebay), so when it arrives I will have one card that was purchased. My wife is worried about the budget for my new hobby. Imagine that. We'll work through that.

I have no idea what happened to the rest of this T202. It is really too bad.

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Posted By: brian p

That Wood panel on the T202 is a beautiful piece of art. I love how it seems to have captured ol' Smokey's questioning gaze, complete with slightly cocked head. The T205 set sure missed out on this card.

Brian

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Posted By: Jonathan Perry

Greetings,

I am the seller of the T205 Joss which some are commenting on item # 2784207140.

I have had nothing but positive transactions with several members of this board for the last few years.

I am curious to know why individuals suggest the card is a reprint yet not a single person has contacted me directly for an additional scan or asked a question.

As many of you know I have dealt with hundreds of T205s over the last year or two. Including the sale of 5 T205 Joss cards.

Sure the card is trimmed, it is being sold as a filler for a collector who just wants the card and maybe can not afford a $400-$1000 Joss card.

To my knowledge the card is an original T205, and for anyone who believes differently if you win the card and have a few "experts" examine it I will be more than happy to provide a full refund.

Good luck to anyone who participates in the auction,

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Posted By: runscott

Jonathan - only Julie commented with the opinion that the card was a fake. My thought was that it's real, which is also what common sense dictates given its condition, but I did not see the point in contradicting Julie. Others who know you and can also vouch for your integrity probably felt the same way.

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Posted By: Julie

It may well be real--it was just that I noticed a big difference between the way your card moves from one color to the next and the way mine does (bought it off "grays")---the transitions in yours are rougher.

But everyone knows that poor condition is no sure sign of authenticity--sellers doctor their fakes by roughing them up for sale as well!

Nothing's certain but death and Lipset. (How'd HE get into this?)