I believe Greg Morris Cards is Selling Reprints as Authentic

[STL1944]

I believe Greg Morris cards is selling 1991 reprints as 1947 Tip Top "hand cut" cards.

I contacted them with the information below (this is one example, but the same characteristics are on all 8 cards). The card on the left is a reprint, the card in the center is the Greg Morris card currently listed on eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/317503599350).

I give them credit for responding. Their response to my email was: "Hi there, we took a look at the tip tops we had on hand and from our assessment they are legit. The stock for the reprints is much lighter than the batch we put up."

I disagree. Anyone other opinions out there? I realize this is an oddball set but I have been trying to put this set together for over 10 years.

Per site rules, my name is Jim McKinley

[Yoda]

Your forensics are impressive. Greg Morris is a big Ebay seller. This revelation may put them in hot water.

[Fred]

Jim,

For clarification - the reason the card offered by GMC is a reprint is because the "Tip Top" is blurred on the card. Is that correct? If so, that seems reasonable.

Is there a way to cleanly remove the "REPRINT 1991" from the card, or is it suspected that there was a run of reprints run from 1991 that didn't include the REPRINT 1991 disclaimer?

I wonder if the TPGs know this. I checked the 1947 TT sold on fleabay and the cards graded by the TPGs all have a clear Tip Top logo.

Interesting catch. Perhaps GMC will review this further.

[JollyElm]

A point of note for the OP. None of the backs of the cards pictured match each other - the text is different on all three.

Not sure if that's a factor for the overall point of the thread, but it may create a bit of confusion.

[Lucas00]

Absolutely a reprint. 1991 tip top reprints look like inkjet copies compared to the real things. Contrast is so bad you almost can't even see the logo on his hat.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Nevermind. I added something that OP already caught.

[Lucas00]

The name font is wrong as well. And it's too large.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

^^^
If you see my post above, the font aspect is exactly what I missed in his post as well. He caught it. Hilarious.

[Anothernicetry]

It seems many times that Reprints, Fakes and Copies of all kinds( from colognes to cards, jewelry, purses etc.) share something similar. Typically the original item will have very clean crisp fonts, logos and photos. Easy to read, thinner usually and straight lines from letter to letter. It looks like the high quality it should, like most originals.

Glad you caught it. That is a big fear of many new collectors, and to come from Greg Morris is even worse due to their status, volume and trust people put in them as legit. I am assuming they just didnt realize, but still.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

^^^
If you see my post above, the font aspect is exactly what I missed in his post as well. He caught it. Hilarious.

HAHA. That's what glazing over something does. Although the font may actually be the same it's hard to tell, but it's absolutely not the right size.

[STL1944]

When I have seen these before, the "1991 Reprint" is cut out of the card (the back right side of the card). That is what I believe happened on these cards. The L/R measurement of the card look too thin.

[Lucas00]

There is a gap on joes right shoulder the real cards and the reprints have that's missing on the GM card. The side that would say reprint. Probably not a coincidence.

[G1911]

It’s a reprint, 100%

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

A point of note for the OP. None of the backs of the cards pictured match each other - the text is different on all three.

Not sure if that's a factor for the overall point of the thread, but it may create a bit of confusion.

That does make it harder to compare the cards. I would think that if the card was trimmed to remove the Reprint text, it would be significantly narrower than the cards in the set usually are. Maybe the question to ask Greg Morris Cards is what is the width of the card.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

That does make it harder to compare the cards. I would think that if the card was trimmed to remove the Reprint text, it would be significantly narrower than the cards in the set usually are. Maybe the question to ask Greg Morris Cards is what is the width of the card.

My guess is that is why Greg has them listed as hand cut.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bnorth

My guess is that is why Greg has them listed as hand cut.

I don't know anything about this set. Does hand-cut make sense if it's an original card from the set? How were they issued?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I don't know anything about this set. Does hand-cut make sense if it's an original card from the set? How were they issued?

Morris uses "hand cut" or "minimum size" in his listings to describe trimmed cards.

[bigfanNY]

Cards were issued in loaves of bread. One loaf one card. No hand cutting. Great set predates the 48 Gum cards. Before internet VERY difficult to piece together a set due to the fact cards were Regional. Red Sox only in Boston area.. Yankees only NY metro etc.