Goldin's Vintage Auction Preview is open and wow

[mrreality68]

Not sure if anyone saw it but Goldin Auction is having a Vintage Auction(I believe there first truly vintage but I could be wrong) and the preview for it on their site(auction opens on 10/4) and WOW and WOW

Some amazing cards, some rare cards and a vast assortment and selection and price point for all vintage collectors.

To Many great auctions and items from So many auction houses

Feel like a kid in a candy store (sometimes with out my allowance)

[oldjudge]

Nice group. It will be interesting to see how Ryan’s E107 set does relative to the set that was sold piecemeal in HA and Brockelman. More sharpie signatures on older/rookie cards. I can’t see why these are popular but to each his own. On a side note, when will there be a formal announcement of Joe T joining Goldin? Will it be cocoincident with his retirement announcement. 😂

[kengoldin]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Nice group. It will be interesting to see how Ryan’s E107 set does relative to the set that was sold piecemeal in HA and Brockelman. More sharpie signatures on older/rookie cards. I can’t see why these are popular but to each his own. On a side note, when will there be a formal announcement of Joe T joining Goldin? Will it be cocoincident with his retirement announcement. 😂

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[Donscards]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Nice group. It will be interesting to see how Ryan’s E107 set does relative to the set that was sold piecemeal in HA and Brockelman. More sharpie signatures on older/rookie cards. I can’t see why these are popular but to each his own. On a side note, when will there be a formal announcement of Joe T joining Goldin? Will it be cocoincident with his retirement announcement. 😂

Joe T is one of the Best--and a dear friend--always a pleasure being with him--I will miss him across from me at the Shiners show (where we always talk and joke, but I know we will connect now being with Golden--See you in Nov.--I look forward to the Golden auction which starts next week--I have 19 consignments in it.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Not sure if anyone saw it but Goldin Auction is having a Vintage Auction(I believe there first truly vintage but I could be wrong) and the preview for it on their site(auction opens on 10/4) and WOW and WOW

Some amazing cards, some rare cards and a vast assortment and selection and price point for all vintage collectors.

To Many great auctions and items from So many auction houses

Feel like a kid in a candy store (sometimes with out my allowance)

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

[oldjudge]

Thanks Ken! Stupid me, I kept checking the WSJ headlines.

[Rhotchkiss]

Joe is entirely the reason I consigned my E107 set to Goldin. First, he sold (bugged) the heck out of me until I agreed. Second, and more importantly, when it comes to selling at auction, I trust Joe a ton. I know he will put 110% into the promotion of my items.

Regarding Goldin, all my experiences with Goldin have, so far, been very positive. I dont think I have sold anything with them, yet. But I have purchased plenty of cards and also some entertainment stuff and there has never been an issue. So far, this consignment experience has been easy and seamless (likely partly because of Joe). Of course, proof will be in the pudding, and my ultimate pleasure (or displeasure) will be based in large part on how the E107 set performs.

The offerings in this auction are incredible. Joe has done an amazing job with Goldin's inagrual vintage auction and, I suspect, he has laid a great foundation for future auctions.

Good luck and congrats to Joe, Ken, and Goldin

[Exhibitman]

Nicely curated and very impressive group of cards. Good luck, Ryan.

[mrreality68]

IT IS LIVE NOW

SO THE FLOOD GATES ARE OPEN

Good Bidding

[Rhotchkiss]

Looks like they opened the auction early

[MonsterCards]

I trust Joe a ton. I know he will put 110% into the promotion of my items.

Just to be a little cheeky and a little serious... I have (6) of the (9) graded E107s on eBay right now and Joe didn't reach out to me to bid on this set.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by MonsterCards

Just to be a little cheeky and a little serious... I have (6) of the (9) graded E107s on eBay right now and Joe didn't reach out to me to bid on this set.

Because you are selling, not buying!

But seriously, I am publicly chastising Joe with this post about not reaching out to you.

[Casey2296]

Ryan,
Best of luck with a fantastic one of a kind consignment.

[calvindog]

Joe T is a force of nature as we all know, and Ken bringing him onboard will quickly bring Goldin’s vintage business to the top I suspect. Pretty crazy first vintage-only auction put together so quickly.

[oldjudge]

I agree with Jeff--Joe T is like the first lyrics of "The Candyman":

Who can take the sunrise
Sprinkle it with dew
Cover it in chocolate and a miracle or two?

How did ML ever let him get away?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I agree with Jeff--Joe T is like the first lyrics of "The Candyman":

Who can take the sunrise
Sprinkle it with dew
Cover it in chocolate and a miracle or two?

How did ML ever let him get away?

Big mistake.
.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I agree with Jeff--Joe T is like the first lyrics of "The Candyman":

Who can take the sunrise
Sprinkle it with dew
Cover it in chocolate and a miracle or two?

How did ML ever let him get away?

Absolute madness. If I was starting an auction house, I’d want my first three employees to be Joe T. Ken, to his credit, saw this.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Joe is entirely the reason I consigned my E107 set to Goldin. First, he sold (bugged) the heck out of me until I agreed. Second, and more importantly, when it comes to selling at auction, I trust Joe a ton. I know he will put 110% into the promotion of my items.

Regarding Goldin, all my experiences with Goldin have, so far, been very positive. I dont think I have sold anything with them, yet. But I have purchased plenty of cards and also some entertainment stuff and there has never been an issue. So far, this consignment experience has been easy and seamless (likely partly because of Joe). Of course, proof will be in the pudding, and my ultimate pleasure (or displeasure) will be based in large part on how the E107 set performs.

The offerings in this auction are incredible. Joe has done an amazing job with Goldin's inagrual vintage auction and, I suspect, he has laid a great foundation for future auctions.

Good luck and congrats to Joe, Ken, and Goldin

Yea, I love that kid too! Good luck.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I agree with Jeff--Joe T is like the first lyrics of "The Candyman":

Who can take the sunrise
Sprinkle it with dew
Cover it in chocolate and a miracle or two?

How did ML ever let him get away?

Maybe eBay threw some bucks and/or options at him?

[puckpaul]

Not unique to Goldin, but the hyperbole in many of the descriptions is just too over the top. For most people who are bidding on these big lots, the sales job is unnecessary:


The assessment is due to even corner wear (with a few diminutive surface abrasions near several corners) and some negligible toning on both sides, none of which compromising the resounding central image that can literally take your breath away.

Worthy of a final resting place in the most esteemed rookie card gathering, we cannot even begin to estimate the lofty value

revealing the one and only Bambino in a classic pitching pose long before he would be walloping horsehide spheres into Yankee Stadium’s grandstands.


“Horsehide spheres”??! Lol

[oldjudge]

You may not like Joe's descriptions (I do) but besides the adjectives he does better analytic work than anyone out there. Look at the results--Joe's write-up's generate extra dollars for consignors.

[sb1]

I like Joe as much as the next guy, but I have to say in 30+ years of auction bidding I have never bid a single increment higher based on an auction write up. I don't think many people even read the descriptions anymore??

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by sb1

I like Joe as much as the next guy, but I have to say in 30+ years of auction bidding I have never bid a single increment higher based on an auction write up. I don't think many people even read the descriptions anymore??

I read the descriptions, and sometimes I throw money at cards just for the prose. Like this one: https://goldin.co/item/1921-w521-han...authentic2hw6g

A significant shift in the placement of the portrayal's red background hue—creating a visual effect of a subject standing in front of a mirror—is more intriguing than disruptive.

I was planning to scroll right by because it gave me a headache. But when I was told that effect is actually "intriguing," not "disruptive," it gave me pause. Now I kind of want to own the card so I can see what it looks through 3-D glasses. So, yeah, I'm high bidder.

[JollyElm]

196. Hyperbolshitter
Someone who completely overhypes what they are selling by flooding the listing with adjectives and all sorts of superfluous blather like “Highlighted by deep rich colors” or “...and the beautiful image dovetails into the pristine snow white borders.”

[CW]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

196. Hyperbolshitter
Someone who completely overhypes what they are selling by flooding the listing with adjectives and all sorts of superfluous blather like “Highlighted by deep rich colors” or “...and the beautiful image dovetails into the pristine snow white borders.”

Nice. Bonus points if they use the terms "extant", "paucity", or "superfluous".

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by CW

Nice. Bonus points if they use the terms "extant", "paucity", or "superfluous".

Don't forget "generational", "iconic", and "fresh to hobby".

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Don't forget "generational", "iconic", and "fresh to hobby".

and they get Double Bonus Vintage Points if they use them all in the First Sentence of the Description

[Rhotchkiss]

Hyperbole notwithstanding, Joe did the write ups (and promoted) all of my lots sold in memory lane, which, compared to similar items recently sold in other auctions, generally did better. Maybe it’s timing, maybe it’s one AH vs the other, maybe it is aesthetics, or maybe it’s Joe. I believe it’s at least partially the latter. So Joe, you do you bc it works for me!

Regarding Goldin, I think the early action on many of the lots is unreal/strong.

[HolyGrail]

As one of many, many good friends of Joe, I very much liked the tenor of this thread until the hyperbole part. I have bought and sold a lot through Joe. As the son of a Man Man ad executive and copy writer for 50 years, I can tell you he's a superstar copy writer.

He takes the time to write detailed descriptions and give vivid context. I sure read the descriptions before I bid because the photos don't show all the creases or surface wear. But Joe does down to the last wrinkle. Above all, he celebrates the piece because he is a passionate collector himself. His enthusiasm is contagious. And he's a great story teller.

Some of the smaller, regional auction houses give you a sentence or two. If it was your item in the auction, wouldn't you prefer Joe going to bat for you?

[theshowandme]

I might have Joe write my obituary

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

As one of many, many good friends of Joe, I very much liked the tenor of this thread until the hyperbole part. I have bought and sold a lot through Joe. As the son of a Man Man ad executive and copy writer for 50 years, I can tell you he's a superstar copy writer.

He takes the time to write detailed descriptions and give vivid context. I sure read the descriptions before I bid because the photos don't show all the creases or surface wear. But Joe does down to the last wrinkle. Above all, he celebrates the piece because he is a passionate collector himself. His enthusiasm is contagious. And he's a great story teller.

Some of the smaller, regional auction houses give you a sentence or two. If it was your item in the auction, wouldn't you prefer Joe going to bat for you?

I don't think anyone is disparaging Joe, his success, knowledge, or creative writing skills. I'm certainly not. As someone in sales I appreciate creative writing and "the pitch". One can find humor in a creative sales pitch whether I write it, you write it, or Joe writes. I've laughed at some of the over the top stuff I've come up with but still hit the send button.
I'm reminded of the classic bit "how to sell a Sharpie".

[HolyGrail]

Duly noted, Phil. Thanks.

David

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

Not unique to Goldin, but the hyperbole in many of the descriptions is just too over the top. For most people who are bidding on these big lots, the sales job is unnecessary:


The assessment is due to even corner wear (with a few diminutive surface abrasions near several corners) and some negligible toning on both sides, none of which compromising the resounding central image that can literally take your breath away.

Worthy of a final resting place in the most esteemed rookie card gathering, we cannot even begin to estimate the lofty value

revealing the one and only Bambino in a classic pitching pose long before he would be walloping horsehide spheres into Yankee Stadium’s grandstands.


“Horsehide spheres”??! Lol

Sounds like a parody lol. Brian Drent used to have descriptions like that, maybe he still does, but I always thought there was an element of tongue in cheek there.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

As one of many, many good friends of Joe, I very much liked the tenor of this thread until the hyperbole part. I have bought and sold a lot through Joe. As the son of a Man Man ad executive and copy writer for 50 years, I can tell you he's a superstar copy writer.

He takes the time to write detailed descriptions and give vivid context. I sure read the descriptions before I bid because the photos don't show all the creases or surface wear. But Joe does down to the last wrinkle. Above all, he celebrates the piece because he is a passionate collector himself. His enthusiasm is contagious. And he's a great story teller.

Some of the smaller, regional auction houses give you a sentence or two. If it was your item in the auction, wouldn't you prefer Joe going to bat for you?

The word "hyperbole" might be divisive because it's often equated with dishonesty. I read the descriptions as more tongue-in-cheek in some respects, and I think they're effective as a form of innocent, fun hyperbole.

For example, there's a listing for a marked W502 Gehrig. Instead of simply stating "pen mark on reverse," the description is:

"The card's grade is qualified to acknowledge a long-ago collector's helpful notation ("W-502") in ink on the reverse."

That one got a laugh out of me, as I just dealt with SGC screwing up the designation of a W502 card not once but twice... even after I told them exactly what the card was on the submission form and in multiple e-mails.

When an auction house highlights a card's obvious flaws and puts a rosy spin on them, it's the best of both worlds: full disclosure with some disarming humor that turns the blemish into part of the story. At the end of the day, it's good for the consignors. It'll bring in more bidders than it turns away.

[HolyGrail]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

I might have Joe write my obituary

I hope your remains and mine are fresh to the hobby.

[oldjudge]

It is through the free interchange of ideas, like this, that great new business possibilities are born. Perhaps the next big thing for PSA is burial encapsulation. They can grade the corpses of the recently deceased and place them in body size slabs. No more need for coffins and made for easy viewing at the funeral. Grades could still be 1-10 but with the A grade possibly replaced PS (plastic surgery).

[Snapolit1]

Personally I think “horsehide orbs” would be more effective.

Someone reading could think a baseball is oval or even made from pigskin. This clear that up nicely.

Originally Posted by puckpaul

Not unique to Goldin, but the hyperbole in many of the descriptions is just too over the top. For most people who are bidding on these big lots, the sales job is unnecessary:


The assessment is due to even corner wear (with a few diminutive surface abrasions near several corners) and some negligible toning on both sides, none of which compromising the resounding central image that can literally take your breath away.

Worthy of a final resting place in the most esteemed rookie card gathering, we cannot even begin to estimate the lofty value

revealing the one and only Bambino in a classic pitching pose long before he would be walloping horsehide spheres into Yankee Stadium’s grandstands.


“Horsehide spheres”??! Lol

[oldjudge]

Just imagine the competition amongst cemeteries for the top registry sets. Each slab would be a 1/1. An auction business, where I'm sure the auction houses would pay the slabbing, would probably develop.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

It is through the free interchange of ideas, like this, that great new business possibilities are born. Perhaps the next big thing for PSA is burial encapsulation. They can grade the corpses of the recently deceased and place them in body size slabs. No more need for coffins and made for easy viewing at the funeral. Grades could still be 1-10 but with the A grade possibly replaced PS (plastic surgery).

It's a logical extension of their current business; they could already design coffins with storage space for PSA slabs because at current prices, many sellers are surely going to be buried with their inventory.

[BobbyStrawberry]

And people who live their entire life inside the PSA vault get a discount!

[HolyGrail]

And Topps could make relic cards with flesh, bones, and internal organs.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Perhaps the next big thing for PSA is burial encapsulation. They can grade the corpses of the recently deceased and place them in body size slabs. No more need for coffins and made for easy viewing at the funeral. Grades could still be 1-10 but with the A grade possibly replaced PS (plastic surgery).

Of course, the way the bowels are usually evacuated at the time of death means there would be a tremendous number of ST qualifiers attached to these new Deceaseslabs.

[HolyGrail]

Game used ST?

[Beercan collector]

Thread progression 😀
1 Goldin auction
2 hyperbole
3 write my obituary
4 encapsulate the dead

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Thread progression 😀
1 Goldin auction
2 hyperbole
3 write my obituary
4 encapsulate the dead

One can go further, what is the value of a deceased HOFers used jockstrap?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's a logical extension of their current business; they could already design coffins with storage space for PSA slabs because at current prices, many sellers are surely going to be buried with their inventory.

I'm still going with SGC. Lay me out with a black border on all sides.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

One can go further, what is the value of a deceased HOFers used jockstrap?

or their teeth or hair

I believe I saw a HOF teeth(actually dentures) and I think for $18K about 2 years ago or so

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

or their teeth or hair

I believe I saw a HOF teeth(actually dentures) and I think for $18K about 2 years ago or so

Yes, they were Cobbs and it was a creepy shitshow of provenance

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I'm still going with SGC. Lay me out with a black border on all sides.

+1
I may not be worth more on secondary but at least I'll look good.

[mrreality68]

now we can say

Thread progression 😀
1 Goldin auction
2 hyperbole
3 write my obituary
4 encapsulate the dead
5. HOF Denture Collectables.

Something we can all sink our teeth int