Looking for "Proof of Life" - M113 & m114 Baseball Magazine supplements

[doug.goodman]

In my quest to catalog these issues, I am looking for pictures of the following posters / supplements and will be forever grateful to anybody who can supply proof of the existence of any of them :

m113 issues :

1914 Athletics Team
1915 Athletics Team
William Carrigan
Hal Chase
Fred Clarke
1915 Braves Team
1913 Giants Team
1915 Phillies Team
1909 Pirates team
1914 Pirates Team
Wally Schang
Bob Shawkey
Jimmy Sheckard
Tris Speaker (facing left)
1914 Whales Team Found on ebay
1915 White Sox Team


m114 issues :

Hank Aaron (DC version)
Joe Adcock (DC version)
Grover Cleveland Alexander
Luis Arroyo
Ed Bailey
Dave Bancroft
Ernie Banks
Ken Boyer Thank you Gary!
Ed Cicotte
Gene Conley
Billy Cox
Art Fletcher
1954 Giants Team
Granny Hamner
Rogers Hornsby
Al Kaline
Bob Keegan
Harvey Kuenn
Vern Law Found him on ebay!
Brooks Lawrence Found him on ebay!
Jim Lemon
Mickey (or Micky) Mantle
Charlie Maxwell
Willie Mays (DC version)
Mike McCormick
Willie Miranda
Ray Moore
Hal Naragon
Bobo Newsom
1916 Phillies Team
Jimmy Piersall
Arnie Portocarrero
1917 Red Sox Team
Robin Roberts I found him in my collection, haha
Frank Robinson
Babe Ruth (Red Sox hitting)
Hank Sauer found him on ebay
Ray Schalk
Wally Schang
1924 Senators Team
Earl Smith
Tris Speaker (Conlon photo)
Gene Stephens
Johnny Temple
Virgil Trucks (NL photo)
Zach Wheat
Jim Wilson

For many of the m114 issues there are potentially two posters of a given player, in most cases I have proof of one, but am looking for proof of the other (which might not even exist).

As an example, at one point I was looking for proof that the second Mantle existed, and I have since discovered that there is also a third, so currently I'm wondering, is there a fourth?

Thank you all in advance,
Doug

[doug.goodman]

I have recently been on a deep dive into the Baseball Magazine advertisements for the m113 / m114 posters and have put together a grid of which players were advertised in each issue.

A couple things piqued my curiosity :

1 – In the Sept 1957 issue of the magazine (the last one) eight posters are advertised for the only time :

Arroyo Louis
Bailey Ed
Banks Ernie
McMillan Roy
Piersall Jimmy
Robinson Frank
Temple Johnny
Boyer Ken

I have never seen any of these, which leads me to think there is a chance that they may not have ever been issued. Does anybody have either a picture of, or an example(!) of any of those eight?


2 – In the March 1955 issue, 20 posters were first advertised. 15 of them continuing to be advertised in the remaining 10 issues thru Sept 1957, and I have all 15 of them. But, Gene Connolly, Arnold Portocarrero, James Wilson & Hal Naragon were not advertised in May 1956, or either 1957 issue – and I have never seen any of those posters. Does anybody have either a picture of, or an example(!) of any of those four?

I also need this Alexander poster.

20 years on the hunt...
Doug

[Mark]

Doug
Is this one of the ones that you are looking for?
Mark



For many of the m114 issues there are potentially two posters of a give player, in most cases I have proof of one, but am looking for proof of the other (which might not even exist.

As an example, at one point I was looking for proof that the second Mantle existed, and I have since discovered that there is also a third, so currently I'm wondering, is there a fourth?

Thank you all in advance,
Doug[/QUOTE]

[Mark]

is this a photo/ pose that you want to verify?

[doug.goodman]

Thank you Mark.

I have that Fletcher m113, which I believe to have been released in January 1914. The standard catalog also lists a 1917 m114 which I have yet to see.

Cox is listed in the catalog as "Billy" with three m114 releases : 1947, 1953 and 1957. Yours (which I also have) was released in December 1947, there is a Dodgers version which came out in July 1950, both as "William". I have yet to see the 1957 release.

Doug

[GoCubsGo32]

Is this the Ray Schalk you need?



Also, is this a 4th version of the Babe Ruth hitting?



edit:Not mine, use for reference

[doug.goodman]

Hi Gary -

I have that Schalk, although yours is in nicer shape than mine.

Yes, that is the Ruth I need. I don't have any kids to give you in trade, and I need both of my arms, but I have other stuff...

Doug

[GoCubsGo32]

lol, I wish
No, they are not mine. I stumble across them online by luck. Hope it help for reference.

[UKCardGuy]

Hi Doug, I recently picked up a Ken Boyer M114 in a lot of mixed ephemera.

Hopefully this is one more off your list.

[doug.goodman]

Thank you Gary!

[Bill77]

I have a Dave Bancroft. Not sure if it's the one you're looking for.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bill77

I have a Dave Bancroft. Not sure if it's the one you're looking for.

Thank you for the try Bill, but that's the Bancroft we already know about, according to the Standard Catalog there is another one.

[h2oya311]

Doug -

You probably already have images of these, but you asked about each in your original post…so figured it was worth a shot:

[doug.goodman]

Thank you Derek -

I have each of those, but the Standard Catalog lists each of those guys as having a second poster.

Hamner is listed as having posters in 1950 & 1957 in the catalog, but my studies of the magazines ads only found advertisements starting in Dec 1950.

Kuenn 1954 & 1957 in the catalog, March 1955 & June 1956 start dates in ads

Sauer 1950 & 1955 in the catalog, Dec 1950 start of ads

So there might be a second poster out there of each of them.

Doug

[doug.goodman]

This post is identical to the first post in this thread, except the list has been updated to reflect the 6 posters that I have found proof of since I made that original post one year ago today.

In my quest to catalog these issues, I am looking for pictures of the following posters / supplements and will be forever grateful to anybody who can supply proof of the existence of any of them :

m113 issues :

1914 Athletics Team
1915 Athletics Team
William Carrigan
Hal Chase
Fred Clarke
1915 Braves Team
1913 Giants Team
1915 Phillies Team
1909 Pirates team
1914 Pirates Team
Wally Schang
Bob Shawkey
Jimmy Sheckard
Tris Speaker (facing left)
1915 White Sox Team


m114 issues :

Hank Aaron (DC version)
Joe Adcock (DC version)
Grover Cleveland Alexander
Luis Arroyo
Ed Bailey
Dave Bancroft
Ernie Banks
Ed Cicotte
Gene Conley
Billy Cox
Art Fletcher
1954 Giants Team
Granny Hamner
Rogers Hornsby
Al Kaline
Bob Keegan
Harvey Kuenn
Jim Lemon
Mickey (or Micky) Mantle
Charlie Maxwell
Willie Mays (DC version)
Mike McCormick
Willie Miranda
Ray Moore
Hal Naragon
Bobo Newsom
1916 Phillies Team
Jimmy Piersall
Arnie Portocarrero
1917 Red Sox Team
Frank Robinson
Babe Ruth (Red Sox hitting)
Ray Schalk
Wally Schang
1924 Senators Team
Earl Smith
Tris Speaker (Conlon photo)
Gene Stephens
Johnny Temple
Virgil Trucks (NL photo)
Zach Wheat
Jim Wilson

For many of the m114 issues there are potentially two posters of a given player, in most cases I have proof of one, but am looking for proof of the other (which might not even exist).

As an example, at one point I was looking for proof that the second Mantle existed, and I have since discovered that there is also a third, so currently I'm wondering, is there a fourth?

Thank you all in advance,
Doug

[Cody77]

Hey Doug,
I believe this is the Zack Wheat M114

[Cody77]

I also believe this is the 1912 Giants, but if issued in 1913 after being NL Champs l, could count as 1913 Giants in the set? I also had one in similar style of 1912 Red Sox.

[doug.goodman]

Thank you Cody.

I have that Wheat, I'm still looking for this caption variation version. Note the placement of the captions in relationship to the picture.

That Giants m113 is a picture of the 1909 team that I believe was released in Sept 1912, here is a less trimmed one.

Doug

[doug.goodman]

Derek posted a Sauer m114 back in January that ended up being one that I already had, but I found the other Sauer on ebay last week, along with a Brooks Lawrence that was on my list.