1970 7th Series B/Left side slit

[deweyinthehall]

Before I start down this path, has anyone ever tried to make a frankenstein version of the 1970 high series slit which would have been on the left side of the full sheet?

I know there aren't any SPs or anything - but I am still curious to try to see what it might have looked like in the absence of an actual image.

[Cliff Bowman]

Looks like we might have a new project .

[jmoran19]

Aren’t we missing the right slit not left?

Started looking for miscuts yesterday, found a few. Will post results later, John

[deweyinthehall]

My bad - it is the right slit we need...here's the left/A slit we have...

I started combing e-Bay today for miscuts and found a decent number. I'd swear there were SPs given some of the search returns I had.

[jmoran19]

Miscuts I pieced together. Sorry lazy and didn't save images:

636 J. Stewart is on top of 663 Tito F. and Tito is on top of CL card 588

673 Ted U is on top of 696 Giants team card. The card under the Giants team card is either the Padres or Indians team card.

Only 38 more to go hahaha

[Kevvyg1026]

couple to get started

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[Kevvyg1026]

bottom of check 7

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[deweyinthehall]

Giants over Indians, Reichardt over AL Rookies

[deweyinthehall]

I've also ID'd all the cards in the bottom of the 4 rows because of the white separation line that runs under them.

Here's Tepedino as a left edge...

[deweyinthehall]

For the record, here are the 44:

Stewart
Indians
Bertaina
McBean
Pagan
Hall
McDowell
Rollins
Roseboro
Hardin
Padres
Tatum
Ward
Robertson
Lucchesi
Francona
Phillips
Meyer
McFadden
Uhlaender
Leonhard
Cardenal
Duncan
Sadecki
Garibaldi
Jones
Fisher
Haller
Hernandez
Tepedino
Fairly
Grzenda
Knoop
Giants
Aguirre
Robinson
Billingham
AL Rookies
Baker
Collins
Santiago
Lolich
Cards Rookies
Phoebus
Roland
Reichardt
Checklist

The 11 that form the bottom/4th row of the block of 4 rows are:
Al Rookies
Francona
Ward
Leonhard
Duncan
Sadecki
Knoop
Aguirre
Collins Santiago Phoebus

I have 4 in the topmost row (white line on top)
Meyer
Baker
Fisher
Bertaina

I have 1 horizontal - Giants is to the left of the Padres team

I think this shows Billingham as a right edge - thoughts?

[jmoran19]

7th series CL has to be a top row card if Tito F is on top of it

[deweyinthehall]

Yep - and from looking at the other B slits we have, whenever a checklists sits at the top, it's a left edge card, making the checklist and Francona left edges.

Here's Lucchesi over Duncan...took me a while, thought it was Bertaina, but it's Lucchesi.

[deweyinthehall]

....and, because the Giants are over the Indians and the Indians isn't a bottom card, then because Uhlaender is over the Giants, that makes Uhlaedner a top card - that makes 6 known top cards.

Also, because Stewart is over Francona, that makes Stewart a left edge - we have 3 of 4 left edges - checklist, Francona and Stewart.

[Kevvyg1026]

Tepedina is the 4th LE card and is above Stewart

[deweyinthehall]

Yes - and I just found both Roland and McFadden with white lines on top, bringing the total top row cards to 8.

[deweyinthehall]

I've seen a number of Ron Fairly cards like this one, with a faint, broken white line running along the top - good enough to call him a top row card?

[Cliff Bowman]

My bad .

[Kevvyg1026]

Hereis a miscut of 659 Pete Ward with the white line and parts of the card below it

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[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I don't see this one mentioned as a top line, Lefty Phillips.

Lefty Phillips isn't in the 7th series - it's Adolfo Phillips.

And on a related note - the Robertson is Jerry Robertson, not the other high number Bob Robertson.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Lefty Phillips isn't in the 7th series - it's Adolfo Phillips.

And on a related note - the Robertson is Jerry Robertson, not the other high number Bob Robertson.

Whoops! I should have checked the number .

[deweyinthehall]

Found a better Fairly - definitely a top row. Also found ADOLFO Phillips with a line...one top card left.

[Kevvyg1026]

Here is a miscut of 661, Jerry Robertson, showing the card beneath.

And, here is the Duncan with WL and the card below it.

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[Kevvyg1026]

Sadecki above a RC

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[deweyinthehall]

That's the Cardinals Rookie Stars under Sadecki - we now have all the top cards:

Checklist
Phillips
Meyer
Fisher
Baker
Bertaina
McFadden
Uhlaender
Roland
Fairly
Cardinals Rookies

[Cliff Bowman]

Ron Fairly is under Dave Duncan.

[Kevvyg1026]

Aguirre with WL and card below it

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[Cliff Bowman]

The card under Aguirre can be Bertaina, Roland, or Uhlaender, all three have 13 years on their stats on the back and have light blue sky on the front.

[Cliff Bowman]

Uhlaender is under Aguirre, I compared all three to the miscut and the 1's line up perfectly with Uhlaender.

[Cliff Bowman]

Never mind, my mistake.

[Cliff Bowman]

Reichardt and the Giants Team card are on the Tepedino row, Lucchesi, AL Rookies, and the Indians Team card are on the Stewart row.

[Cliff Bowman]

Bob Garibaldi has a wrong back of Nolan Ryan, since Ryan is in the sixth slot of the second row on the A slit that means Garibaldi is in the sixth slot of the Stewart row on the B slit because the whole back of the 264 card super sheet was upside down from the front of the 264 card super sheet.

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[Cliff Bowman]

Never mind, wrong card .

[Kevvyg1026]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Jerry Robertson is under Joe Grzenda, believe it or not Jerry Robertson is the only one of the 44 cards with a six year stat line.

I think Grzenda is above Gary Ross on the other slit

[Kevvyg1026]

MC of 715, Lolich

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[Kevvyg1026]

MC of Roland, looks like a 15 yr stat line

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[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

I think Grzenda is above Gary Ross on the other slit

I’m innocent on this one, dewey has Grzenda on the list of 44 for the B slit so I just assumed he was one of them .

[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

I think Grzenda is above Gary Ross on the other slit

Ack! You're right! I had been tracking 3 cards as part of the right side slit which are actually part of the left side - Grzenda, Hernandez and Roseboro. Thankfully I was tracking a total of 47 cards on the right slit, not 44, eliminating the need to find three to offset these three.

[Cliff Bowman]

Never mind, issue resolved .

[Cliff Bowman]

Here are the correct 44 on the B slit:

Stewart
Indians
Bertaina
McBean
Pagan
Hall
McDowell
Rollins
Hardin
Padres
Tatum
Ward
Robertson
Lucchesi
Francona
Phillips
Meyer
McFadden
Uhlaender
Leonhard
Cardenal
Duncan
Sadecki
Garibaldi
Jones
Fisher
Haller
Tepedino
Fairly
Knoop
Giants
Aguirre
Robinson
Billingham
AL Rookies
Baker
Collins
Santiago
Lolich
Cards Rookies
Phoebus
Roland
Reichardt
Checklist

[deweyinthehall]

With the find of Uhlaender under Aguirre, we have a complete column of, top to bottom - Uhlaedner, Giants, Indians, Aguirre.

The AL Rookies is a bottom card, making Reichardt part of the the Stewart row, not Tepedino.

[deweyinthehall]

Phillips over Tatum - could have been either Garibaldi or Robertson, but Tatum lines up perfectly.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

MC of Roland, looks like a 15 yr stat line

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Just to be clear, when you say 15 year stat line are you including the Major League Total line as part of the 15 years?

[deweyinthehall]

I pulled all the 44 from my album, and sorted the player cards by width of yellow area on the reverse. Looking at the Lolich above, it has to be Ward beneath him - only other candidates would be Fairly, which would need Lolich to be a bottom card, and Aguirre, which we know is below the Indians.

[deweyinthehall]

Bertaina has to be over Billingham, which places Bertaina as our second known right edge.

[deweyinthehall]

In the Roland above, he has to be over either McDowell or McBean - I think McDowell matches a bit better, and when you look at McBean, the Y in "YEAR" seems too close to the edge to not be seen in the miscut.

Not sure enough to call it for McDowell though, yet.

[deweyinthehall]

Duncan is over Fisher is the only top row card that matches.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Duncan is over Fisher is the only top row card that matches.

I have Duncan over Fairly, the front of the miscut Duncan has the card under it with a dark top edge, Fairly has a dark photo top and Fisher has a light blue sky photo top.

[deweyinthehall]

My bad - you are correct. This gives us Fairly, ?, Lucchesi and Duncan needing one more for a column.

[deweyinthehall]

Jose Pagan is over Jimmie Hall

[Cliff Bowman]

I figured the Ward would be an easy match but it can still be Meyer, Bertaina, McFadden, or Roland and I can't figure out which one it is. I guess it will have to be through elimination. ETA, Roland has been eliminated so that leaves Meyer, Bertaina, and McFadden.