Tell me about this Exhibit Ted Williams...

[luciobar1980]

Hey guys, had a Mantle of one of these at some point and learned it was a later reprint of some kind. This one I found very recently at an antique store. Is it an original and what would be a reasonable asking price?

[MikeGarcia]

..That little "printed in USA " means post WW2 issue.
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[luciobar1980]

ohh ok, now I see.. so it's a matter of "made" in USA vs "printed" in USA.

[EddieP]

This explains it well:

http://www.keymancollectibles.com/exhibitdatechart.htm

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

if that's a gray cardboard back it's a reprint

[jbsports33]

Did you already buy it? and the back maybe ok - these almost need to be looked at in person - the USA stamp dimensions also help – do some reading, there should be more info out there
The link above should help too! - look at your text on the bottom
“Printed in the U.S.A.” more often with “Made in the U.S.A.

these can be real tough to tell the difference

If original I have sold them for around 200.00

Good luck!

Jimmy

[G1911]

Fake

[Casey2296]

This is why I've never touched 47-66 exhibits.

[John1941]

Looks fake to me.

[G1911]

That back stock is the giveaway - the originals are a creamy stock. This is the reprint.

[luciobar1980]

Originally Posted by EddieP

This explains it well:

http://www.keymancollectibles.com/exhibitdatechart.htm

Cool! Looks like mine is the 1960-1961 era reprint.

And, it may be semantics, but I don't think calling it "fake" in this case is correct. It's not like it's a counterfeit.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Cool! Looks like mine is the 1960-1961 era reprint.

And, it may be semantics, but I don't think calling it "fake" in this case is correct. It's not like it's a counterfeit.

Well if you completely ignore the back stock, sure. It’s a much later reprint. The gray stock Exhibits are not originals.

[luciobar1980]

Originally Posted by G1911

Well if you completely ignore the back stock, sure. It’s a much later reprint. The gray stock Exhibits are not originals.

Ok, I'm still confused. Based on that Keyman site it looks like the 60-61 era. You're saying it's a "fake" of even those later reprints, because the back is a grey stock?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Ok, I'm still confused. Based on that Keyman site it looks like the 60-61 era. You're saying it's a "fake" of even those later reprints, because the back is a grey stock?

Yes. An original Exhibit from the 1947-1966 productions (in which the Salutations Williams was reprinted many times) will have a creamy stock. The 1980’s reprints have either a bright white or gray stock, like this one. This card is a fake. It is from the 1980’s.

[Exhibitman]

That stock--gray chipboard--is from a series of fakes made after ESCO gave up the ghost. While I cannot tell from the front because of the scanner moire effect, they are re-screens of genuine cards (halftone prints made from an existing card; put through the halftone screen process again), which you can tell with a side-by-side comparison to a real one.

There are two basic fakes: gray chipboard and bright white stiff board. Both have re-screened fronts. There are also a number of obvious reprints that show the cards with white borders on thin cardboard that no one will mistake for the real thing.

The only genuine cards with gray backs are the Canadian issues from the early 1950s and they are not re-screens. The Williams from that issue has a small number on the bottom right in a white diamond.



Please excuse the pinheads at SGC who misidentified this one as a standard card.

[whiteymet]

what Adam says above