T205 Harmon Left Ear Auction on eBay

[T205 GB]

Anyone else think this was a very strong price for a T205 Harmon Left Ear that is raw or is this what they sell for? It was a great example for sure. Those bidders sure went strong at the end with massive jumps. Some of them had massive bid percentages and retractions.

Is this the new norm for buyers on ebay? I remember when this would cause everyone to shy away because of concern over shilling. Can't you still block bidders like this on eBay from your auctions or is this not a smart move to do because it cuts out potential bidders that approach online bidding like a dutch auction, lol?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18536770889...p2047675.l2557



I don't know the seller or buyer and am only starting a conversation for better understanding of the market and sellers/buyers perspectives.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

there aren't any bid retractions. just one bidder trying to find the top and then placing three bids at the end to increase his max. You know as well as anyone how tough these are. A PSA 2.5 went for $250ish a year ago, so it's a big jump for a raw card, but not out of line for the market, I think.

[T205 GB]

Sorry, I don’t mean to insinuate there were bid retractions for this auction. I was just pointing out that some of the bidders in the auctions have high retractions and am curious if this is the new norm? I remember being able to set my eBay setting to not allow anyone with X amount of bid retractions or fewer than X feedback and so on. I do not sell a lot on eBay, but if I was, is it foolish of me to have settings like this because it could potentially block out bigger bidders who bid like this in todays market. I just know it used to be frowned upon to be a buyer with retractions in the double if not triple digits.

I do know how tough those SP’s are in the T205 set. Those are all great looking cards and present very well. Imo, that Harmon is a 3, so it’s great to see something to use as a new comparable considering how scarce they are.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

Anyone else think this was a very strong price for a T205 Harmon Left Ear that is raw or is this what they sell for? It was a great example for sure. Those bidders sure went strong at the end with massive jumps. Some of them had massive bid percentages and retractions.

Is this the new norm for buyers on ebay? I remember when this would cause everyone to shy away because of concern over shilling. Can't you still block bidders like this on eBay from your auctions or is this not a smart move to do because it cuts out potential bidders that approach online bidding like a dutch auction, lol?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18536770889...p2047675.l2557



I don't know the seller or buyer and am only starting a conversation for better understanding of the market and sellers/buyers perspectives.

Look at the underbidder with 1,318 feedback. He's had 136 bid retractions in the past twelve months. Does that seem a bit unusual/questionable to anyone? And the bidder with 80 feedback that won the auction, he has made 87% of his bids this past month all with this same seller. Something just doesn't seem right. That is a decent T205 card though.

[nebboy]

A few other SPs have sold strong for the same seller. Other hand some HOFs, minor league, and tuffer commons sold easy at or a little low within range.

Overall I'm glad I finished my T205 set to the point that I'm happy before prices got to were they are. Still enjoy following anything to do with the set.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by BobC

Look at the underbidder with 1,318 feedback. He's had 136 bid retractions in the past twelve months. Does that seem a bit unusual/questionable to anyone? And the bidder with 80 feedback that won the auction, he has made 87% of his bids this past month all with this same seller. Something just doesn't seem right. That is a decent T205 card though.

I'm not sure about why there would be so many retractions, but this seller has listed a large number of T205s from a set break that are ending Thursday through Sunday so if the bidder is working on the set (like I am), it wouldn't be surprising that he has placed so many bids with this seller recently.

I have been bidding on some of the SPs and unfortunately, they got too high for my liking. I'm down to just needing a few to complete my set so looks like I may need to up my budget if I ever do want to finish the set.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I'm not sure about why there would be so many retractions, but this seller has listed a large number of T205s from a set break that are ending Thursday through Sunday so if the bidder is working on the set (like I am), it wouldn't be surprising that he has placed so many bids with this seller recently.

I have been bidding on some of the SPs and unfortunately, they got too high for my liking. I'm down to just needing a few to complete my set so looks like I may need to up my budget if I ever do want to finish the set.

I think ebay is fraught with friends protecting friends...but the T205s are rising with the tide.
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[BobC]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think ebay is fraught with friends protecting friends...but the T205s are rising with the tide.
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Good point. Been seeing a lot of strong bids lately for some of the variations and tougher cards in the set. Wonder why now and not earlier when everything started taking off over the past couple of years.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by BobC

Good point. Been seeing a lot of strong bids lately for some of the variations and tougher cards in the set. Wonder why now and not earlier when everything started taking off over the past couple of years.

Because T205's are the whipping post of tobacco cards. No love or respect from the majority. T205's should be highly sought after since the hobby has oppressed them for so long. lol

[BobC]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

Because T205's are the whipping post of tobacco cards. No love or respect from the majority. T205's should be highly sought after since the hobby has oppressed them for so long. lol

LOL

Andrew,

Couldn't agree with you more. And if you think they get treated badly in the hobby, just look at the T205s annoying little kid brother, the S74 silks. PSA won't even grade them. Ha! Some day.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

Sorry, I don’t mean to insinuate there were bid retractions for this auction. I was just pointing out that some of the bidders in the auctions have high retractions and am curious if this is the new norm? I remember being able to set my eBay setting to not allow anyone with X amount of bid retractions or fewer than X feedback and so on. I do not sell a lot on eBay, but if I was, is it foolish of me to have settings like this because it could potentially block out bigger bidders who bid like this in todays market. I just know it used to be frowned upon to be a buyer with retractions in the double if not triple digits.

I do know how tough those SP’s are in the T205 set. Those are all great looking cards and present very well. Imo, that Harmon is a 3, so it’s great to see something to use as a new comparable considering how scarce they are.

There's never been any way to filter serial retracting bidders out of your auctions. Only bidders who have been hit with a certain number of non-paying bidder notices.

All you can really do is manually block them, after they F with your auctions.

The reason why a lot of them were still active, is because the larger Ebay auction houses refused to block them from their auctions after getting hit with retractions by them.

You can see the 2nd high bidder with all the 132 retractions, hasn't had any since Ebay outlawed retractions in the Trading Card category.

They can still screw with an auction, and request a cancellation after the win, however.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

They can still screw with an auction, and request a cancellation after the win, however.

One can only hope. I got shut down on the Grant. It had great eye appeal. There were quite a few I watched go off just to see where they would fall. Now I just need to focus on an AB Matty, AB Cobb, and high grade Grants. Of course anything else shinny like gold is a need too.