Campy autos on 3x5's

[mainemule]

I have had these 2, 3x5s for many years and wanted to share here to see the collective thoughts of this group on these.

Both sellers were advanced collectors who gave me assurances these would pass 3rd party authentication. I know with Campy his post accident signature is so very labored so his auto has to be hard to authenticate even for the pros. I also heard he may have used a writing implement to help him sign.

Anyway, these surfaced in my collection and thought I'd see what folks here had to say about these.

Sharing my Front Row certified auto as well, which I strongly believe is legit.

TIA.....Scott

[rand1com]

I don't like either of the index cards.

[mrmopar]

I have been curious about that myself. I think I read where it was difficult for him to even hold a writing instrument. A machine aided signature seems about the only likely explanation.

I do recall the Front Row stuff shortly before he died, but I was not as much into autographs yet. I did pick up one of the front row cards though.

[perezfan]

I like ONLY the Front Row example. A little tough sometimes to judge his post-accident auto, but the two index cards still look to be "off".

Just my .02

[mainemule]

I appreciate the comments so far. In my opinion, the top index card bears some resemblance to the FR auto and the signatures from the signed Sports Legend statues (and the cuts taken from the statues). I've not seen a post accident auto that looks like the bottom one.

[mr2686]

The Front Row is definitely legit. The second 3x5 I'd give a 98% chance of being bad. The first 3x5 is anyone's guess. Without actually being there for that one I doubt anyone could say more than a 50/50 guess.
Here's mine from Oct 1989 in person. I was about 10th in line so it looks pretty good. Roy used a brace, not a machine by this time (not sure exactly what he used early post accident, but this was definitely a brace to just hold his wrist/arm steady. He basically had to stretch out his fingers since the palm of his hand was stationary, and that's why you rarely see a fully formed '"a" at the end of his last name. Also, the more he signed at a given time, the sloppier it got.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Mike,

That may be the nicest post-accident Campy I've seen. Makes you wonder what the first 9 people in line received!

[mainemule]

Originally Posted by BillyCox3

Mike,

That may be the nicest post-accident Campy I've seen. Makes you wonder what the first 9 people in line received!

....and I would love to see the full photo if Mike is able to share. And thanks Mike for your comments.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by mainemule

....and I would love to see the full photo if Mike is able to share. And thanks Mike for your comments.

Here it is from my 55 Brooklyn Dodger wall (16x20 poster matted and framed). The dumb-a$$ that was helping the promoter slapped a sticker on it before I could stop him...kinda used to it by now though.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by BillyCox3

Mike,

That may be the nicest post-accident Campy I've seen. Makes you wonder what the first 9 people in line received!

Thanks! Yeah, this falls in to the woulda-coulda-shoulda category. Wish I would have had a couple of things signed, but $200 in 1989 was a pretty good chunk of change. If I remember right, and I probably don't, this signing was limited to 200 signatures and flats only.

[mrmopar]

That is some great info and a live recipient witness story doesn't get much better.

I bought a life magazine that was supposedly signed at one of those events. It was pretty early in the ebay days. I'd have to dig it out to see how it looks. hopefully I did not get burned.

[mrmopar]

Had been doing some excavating, so the Campy was not too deep after all. Pretty sure I have never shared any images of this before. I even managed to save a copy of the ebay auction. I wish I had done that for everything. It's not only good info, but fun to go back in time for a glimpse of what was happening at that time. Turns out, I bought this in July 2002.

If I got taken, the money hasn't been missed, at least not since around July 2002! If it's legit, I got a heck of a deal!

The COA and autograph ticket (from 1991) are meaningless at this point, and frankly were then as well. The seller was in NJ, which is a sign in the right direction, but still meaningless.

I can't make out the last name from the first name on the Cert and that business name didn't bring up anything in a quick search. Anyone have any knowledge/experience with the business or the names (if you recognize)?

[mrmopar]

Now that I have posted this, I have my doubts this is legit, at least compared to the Front Row and the photo.

[rand1com]

The ticket looks to be authentic but that does not mean it actually belongs to the item in question. I don't like the signature and the COA meant nothing then or now. The late 90's to early 2000's were filled with fakes being sold on Ebay. His post accident autographs had no consistency so about the only way to be sure was to have witnessed the signature. I'm surprised the 3rd party authenticators even authenticate his post accident autos.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Here it is from my 55 Brooklyn Dodger wall (16x20 poster matted and framed). The dumb-a$$ that was helping the promoter slapped a sticker on it before I could stop him...kinda used to it by now though.

Very nice

[mainemule]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

Had been doing some excavating, so the Campy was not too deep after all. Pretty sure I have never shared any images of this before. I even managed to save a copy of the ebay auction. I wish I had done that for everything. It's not only good info, but fun to go back in time for a glimpse of what was happening at that time. Turns out, I bought this in July 2002.

If I got taken, the money hasn't been missed, at least not since around July 2002! If it's legit, I got a heck of a deal!

The COA and autograph ticket (from 1991) are meaningless at this point, and frankly were then as well. The seller was in NJ, which is a sign in the right direction, but still meaningless.

I can't make out the last name from the first name on the Cert and that business name didn't bring up anything in a quick search. Anyone have any knowledge/experience with the business or the names (if you recognize)?

I had not ever seen this image- wow, shows that Campy likely had a positive outlook on life even after such a tragic event. Thanks for sharing (and I of course cannot comment on that signature or the COA's).

[Fuddjcal]

I don't like the 3 x 5 cards at all.

Here's the Roy Scribanella's I have. The Photo is a reframe job from an original Scoreboard endeavor, like the ball is.

The leather on the ball was originally signed flat and then stitched on the ball, albeit "BACKWARDS", .

The Christopher Paluso is 28/250

I used to love to see Roy at the Stadium on the old club level. He actually signed a ball for my buddy when he asked him. I never could get up the nerve to ask but would "Shake" his hand. He was very approachable and a very nice guy always with a smile on his face. He had his own spot just to the left of home plate for his wheelchair and 1-seat for Roxy. They were at virtually every game. Everyone knew that WAS ROY's SPOT!

[mrmopar]

Agreed about all comments. I had not even seen the item in years. At first I thought maybe the larger item might make signing a little easier as he would not have to focus on keeping within a very small area like a card, 3x5 or even an 8x10. His arm could move as wide as needed, given what control he did have of his limbs. I don't see another post accident looking this "steady", most exhibit a shakiness that would likely be present in his condition.

I found a pre-accident cut, so that beats out any post accident signature as far as i am concerned.

Originally Posted by rand1com

The ticket looks to be authentic but that does not mean it actually belongs to the item in question. I don't like the signature and the COA meant nothing then or now. The late 90's to early 2000's were filled with fakes being sold on Ebay. His post accident autographs had no consistency so about the only way to be sure was to have witnessed the signature. I'm surprised the 3rd party authenticators even authenticate his post accident autos.