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Old 12-23-2018, 01:30 PM
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Default New episode of The Monster Podcast

Hi folks!

Episode 3 of the Monster Podcast is live!

Check out our conversation about T206s with Peter Devereaux, author of the new book, "GAME FACES: Early Baseball Cards from the Library of Congress."

https://soundcloud.com/the-monster-p...-of-game-faces

The book includes 300 beautiful hi-res photos of T206s and other pre-war tobacco cards, and fascinating stories about the cards and the time in which they were produced.

Buy GAME FACES here: https://www.amazon.com/Game-Faces-Ba.../dp/158834634X

-Justin
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Old 12-24-2018, 10:31 AM
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another outstanding podcast... thank you!
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Old 12-24-2018, 11:41 AM
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Thanks for listening and for the kind words, Joe! Happy holidays!
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Old 12-26-2018, 06:43 AM
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Cool! I’ll check this out
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Old 03-17-2019, 07:58 AM
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Default Ep 5 of The Monster Podcast- Basics on backs

Hi N54ers!

I’m pleased to announce that episode 5 of The Monster Podcast is live:

https://m.soundcloud.com/the-monster...asics-on-backs

On this one, we discuss the different T206 advertising backs & why collectors care about them. Jay's back ranking from the episode is pasted below.

Enjoy, and let us know what you think!

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Here's Jay's back scarcity ranking from the episode:

B.S. TIER
Old Mill brown
Lenox brown
Blank back
Ty Cobb

SUPER TOUGH TIER
Broad Leaf 460
Drum
Uzit
Lenox black
Broad Leaf 350
Red Hindu
Carolina Brights

TOP TIER
American Beauty 460
Brown Hindu
Cycle 460
Piedmont 350-460 factory 42

TOUGH TIER
American Beauty 350 frame
American Beauty 350 no frame
Cycle 350
EPDG
Tolstoi

PLUS BACKS
Old Mill (plus Southern variation)
Polar Bear
Sovereign 150
Sovereign 350 series apple green
Sovereign 350 series forest green
Sovereign 460

SWEET CAPORAL FACTORY VARIATIONS
Sweet Caporal 150 factory 649 overprint
Sweet Caporal 150 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 42
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 42 scroll

COMMONS
Piedmont 150 factory 25
Piedmont 350 factory 25
Piedmont 350-460 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 30
Sweet Caporal 150 factory 30
Sweet Caporal 350 factory 30
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Old 03-17-2019, 10:23 AM
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Great job fellas. Really enjoyed this one too. Keep ‘em coming!
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:50 PM
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Lenox Brown is a legitimate back so I'm not sure why it shows up in Jay's "BS" tier. Also not sure who "Jay" is and what T206 research he has done. That would be useful to know.

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Old 03-21-2019, 07:26 PM
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Lenox Brown is a legitimate back so I'm not sure why it shows up in Jay's "BS" tier. Also not sure who "Jay" is and what T206 research he has done. That would be useful to know.
First off, Scot, I owe you an apology. During the episode I believe I attributed your book to Bill Brown. Sorry about that. The book is awesome and I have referred several listeners to it.

I'm not intending to call Lenox Brown an "illegitimate back." Obviously it's a real back. My intent in carving out that tier was to bring backs together that have such low pops and appear with so few fronts that your average set collector, or even back collector can discount them. There are just 17 Lenox Browns directly attributed by PSA. I have seen 1 (maybe 2) change hands this year.

My research centers around comparative scarcity. Cards that are tough with a certain back even if the combination facially looks normal or uninteresting.

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Hi N54ers!

I’m pleased to announce that episode 5 of The Monster Podcast is live:

https://m.soundcloud.com/the-monster...asics-on-backs

On this one, we discuss the different T206 advertising backs & why collectors care about them. Jay's back ranking from the episode is pasted below.

Enjoy, and let us know what you think!

Justin
Co-host
TheMonsterPodcast.com
SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES: apple.co/2TiXCFo

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Here's Jay's back scarcity ranking from the episode:

B.S. TIER
Old Mill brown
Lenox brown
Blank back
Ty Cobb

SUPER TOUGH TIER
Broad Leaf 460
Drum
Uzit
Lenox black
Broad Leaf 350
Red Hindu
Carolina Brights

TOP TIER
American Beauty 460
Brown Hindu
Cycle 460
Piedmont 350-460 factory 42

TOUGH TIER
American Beauty 350 frame
American Beauty 350 no frame
Cycle 350
EPDG
Tolstoi

PLUS BACKS
Old Mill (plus Southern variation)
Polar Bear
Sovereign 150
Sovereign 350 series apple green
Sovereign 350 series forest green
Sovereign 460

SWEET CAPORAL FACTORY VARIATIONS
Sweet Caporal 150 factory 649 overprint
Sweet Caporal 150 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 42
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 42 scroll

COMMONS
Piedmont 150 factory 25
Piedmont 350 factory 25
Piedmont 350-460 factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 30
Sweet Caporal 150 factory 30
Sweet Caporal 350 factory 30
I can't argue with this breakdown. I love Brown Hindus, but am always in the market for Sovereigns and Polar Bears because I can actually find them at a reasonable price.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:22 PM
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Jay,

Sorry for the late response. Thanks for your timely one. To elaborate, I believe Brown Lenox is a legitimate back since it is (1) factory cut (not hand cut), (2) distinct from other backs (in that the brown ink is truly brown, not black) AND (3) fits a distinct 350/450 subject pattern that confirms it is legitimate.

I don’t personally own any, but have seen a few. I would hate for someone who owns one or more to have their collection devalued on false assumption. Thanks for reading my ebook and good luck with your podcast.

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Jay,

Sorry for the late response. Thanks for your timely one. To elaborate, I believe Brown Lenox is a legitimate back since it is (1) factory cut (not hand cut), (2) distinct from other backs (in that the brown ink is truly brown, not black) AND (3) fits a distinct 350/450 subject pattern that confirms it is legitimate.

I don’t personally own any, but have seen a few. I would hate for someone who owns one or more to have their collection devalued on false assumption. Thanks for reading my ebook and good luck with your podcast.

Scot
After listening to the podcast, I don't think someone would misconstrue the Old Mill Brown as being unimportant or not real. I took the conversation to place it more in the "Wildest Dreams" than "Not really real" category. I would certainly be interested however on thoughts about the Old Mill Blue backs found of late. I have never seen a Old Mill Brown and I often look at my Old Mill Backs and wonder how much of a difference is it in person?
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Thanks so much for listening!
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Great job, fellas... thanks for creating these podcasts
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