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Do any of you knowingly buy trimmed cards? Does it bother you to own it?
I only own one trimmed card and it's the 1934 Butterfinger Babe Ruth. This bothers me a little, but it presents well and I got it at a quarter of the price. If the card is scarce do you not care as much?
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I actually seek them out. Great presentation for a fraction of the cost.
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[QUOTE=todeen;1929699]Do any of you knowingly buy trimmed cards? Does it bother you to own it?[QUOTE]
Yes, but the vast majority of the ones I have had were not trimmed in the attempt to enhance their value, and with most of them it is incredibly obvious that they have been trimmed, so I view trimmed cards differently than I imagine many do. And in some cases really tough cards have come to me at a tiny fraction of the typical cost. So no, it doesn't bother me at all, and they also serve to remind me that I am a collector at heart, and not an investor. Brian Last edited by brianp-beme; 11-09-2019 at 01:13 AM. Reason: Changed my no to a yes to make sense |
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I'm looking at a rare card in an auction that I would not otherwise be able to own. And I'm not sure if the stigma attached to trimmed cards right now is what's bothering me, or if it's the fact I haven't sought out a trimmed card before. I didn't seek out the 34 Butterfinger Ruth. I don't actually consider it a card, and so I wasn't as appalled by the trimming. And given the fact that the Butterfingers fall apart so easily, I didn't care about more of the card missing. But it just feels different with a card-card.
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Go for it...
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![]() ![]() Sometimes I wish this one was like a salamander and would grow what’s been lopped off. But mostly I just like it.
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I would buy a trimmed card under the right circumstances. I can't say I have done it but would if the opportunity presented itself and it was sold accurately.
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I haven't knowingly bought any trimmed cards in the past but I wouldn't rule out doing so in the future. For example...I'd really love to own a '15 Cracker Jack Chief Bender..it's at the top of my list of 'wants'. But my hobby budget (or lack thereof) keeps me from bidding on some of the beauties I see at auction. If I found one trimmed not too severely with a price I found acceptable I'd gladly pay for it.
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When it come to rare/very scarce cards I am seeking, I take what I can get, such as this E222:
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+1 I have no problem buying a trimmed card at the right price.
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I don't have a problem with certain otherwise unattainable cards being trimmed or altered so long as it's disclosed, or reasonably conveyed if suspected (i.e. cards in "A" slabs).
My '56 Mantle that I have had since I was 13 years old is in such a slab because it was altered less than professionally to exchange a corner stain for paper loss. The card doctor was me, in a time before grading before I knew that such tomfoolery could be considered undesirable. ![]()
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"I actually seek them out. Great presentation for a fraction of the cost."
"+1 I have no problem buying a trimmed card at the right price." "I don't have a problem with certain otherwise unattainable cards being trimmed or altered so long as it's disclosed, or reasonably conveyed if suspected." I don't feel so alone now. When I got back into collecting about 20 years ago, I discovered Net54, and was shocked by all the talk about trimmed cards. I decided then and there that it was a great opportunity. At the time, you could get a trimmed card for 10 cents on the dollar. Now it's closer to 50 percent. Now, two decades later, trimmed cards are just as controversial, but seemingly far more accepted. I constantly run into collectors who are OK with them, if only to get a presentable card at a good price. |
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I buy trimmed cards and I get them slabbed!!!
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Not unless I have too -- these must be trimmed (i.e., hand cut), its the only way they come.
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I have no problem with minor trimming as I collect mostly lower condition cards but I don’t like the cards completely missing the borders. (I have a 58 Eddie Mathews and some 58 commons missing entire border if anyone wants them—even most of obc don’t want these) I bought some butterfingers missing entire borders otherwise nice but they bother me more than I thought they would. I do like cards with all four corners neatly and evenly clipped though to match some of my 53 topps— weird I know — no accounting for taste.
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As far as I know, I have not bough a trimmed card.
I would buy a trimmed card if it was disclosed and priced accordingly. |
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I do. All things being equal I tend to prefer a nice looking 2 or 3, but I'm all about the eye appeal : cost ratio , and nice looking trimmed cards are more than welcome in my collection. I like rare cards, and you can't be too picky. Also like Ryan said, some cards were hand-cut and can't be found with a number grade. Or can they?
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The one type of alteration I most dislike is trimming, so I'd have problem with owning a trimmed card.
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My response is mostly aligned with some of what others have chimed in with already:
1) That I am aware of I do not own any cards that were factory cut and then trimmed. 2) I would be open to purchasing a trimmed card - The factors for me would be 1 - How long would I have to wait given availability and 2) expense for a non trimmed version - the longer expected wait (think years, not months) or more out of my realm of affordability, the greater the likelihood that I would go for a trimmed copy. 3) Alteration needs to be disclosed The idea that a card is trimmed doesn't sit well with me and as a general rule I steer clear, but as above, given the right set of variables I could pull the trigger. The resale is another factor for me. I am more likely NOT to spend big $$ for a trimmed card - market too finicky about them and would be concerned about resale. |
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I like the miscut graded cards in near mint to mint condition. Borders don't mean that much to me is the image of the player.
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Depends on price !
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![]() These two are basically white whales for me that I bought graded as altered / trimmed. If I ever sell them it will definitely be in these holders. I like displaying my cards and I enjoy how these look. In this price range I'm definitely okay with the trade off.
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Does not concern me in the least. This will surely ruffle some feathers , but I don't understand how a card with a hole punched ( or 3) can get a number grade and a trimmed card can't. They both have paper removed. With all the outed cards known to exist, why not give the card a number grade and a qualifier? Or just give everything a "1".
Back to topic, buying trimmed allows me to own these two, although I am not sure Honus is trimmed. |
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NO. I would rather never own a card than buy one that was trimmed.
The "W" strip cards are fine if they are correct size and graded. Listed as "Authentic" is not acceptable to me. |
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I don't believe I have ever purchased a trim card but I guess I had no trouble doing that myself when I was much younger.
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I have a trimmed card or two in my collection and they are labeled as such. I would be pissed off if they were given a number grade even though I knew they were trimmed. Historically I try to avoid them but in some cases I will make an exception.
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I don't think anyone would intentionally trim this card like this (I assume the "A" is for being trimmed), hence I'm thinking it's actually a factory miscut. Regardless, it's the only example in the combined pop reports, and I was happy to get it at a reasonable price.
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Seeking very scarce/rare cards for my Sam Rice master collection, e.g., E210 York Caramel Type 2 (upgrade), 1931 W502, W504 (upgrade), W572 sepia, W573, 1922 Haffner's Bread, 1922 Keating Candy, 1922 Witmor Candy Type 2 (vertical back), 1926 Sports Co. of Am. with ad & blank backs. Also 1917 Merchants Bakery & Weil Baking cards of WaJo. Also E222 cards of Lipe, Revelle & Ryan. |
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Man that E222 is one cool card.
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"Originally Posted by ValKehl When it come to rare/very scarce cards I am seeking, I take what I can get"
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" Do any of you knowingly buy trimmed cards? Does it bother you to own it? " It all depends if you are a "wheeler-dealer, or a "flipper", or a True Collector. I bought, or traded for these trimmed cards to complete my sets. In some cases, I desired an aesthetically better looking card than I previously had in my collection. In fact, when it comes to Hi-Priced or rare cardboard, I prefer to pay the lower price associated with a card which is considered "trimmed". So, heck NO ! Trimmed cards do NOT bother me. Here is an array of some of my cards judged "A" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted, those are super nice trimmed cards - each has great eye appeal.
And, a belated Happy Birthday to you! BTW, our entire country will be thankful on my birthday this year, because it falls on Thanksgiving Day! I'll turn 76 - this old fart is rapidly catching up with you! ![]()
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Yes, I have and will buy trimmed cards, if they're priced right, and advertised as trimmed.
Or just not made out to be in great condition, like if I came across some at a yard sale or flea market. Like most cards for me it's a mix of condition, and the price vs availability. A card I know is harder to find and that would be out of my budget if it wasn't trimmed? Yep. Something I could easily afford a nicer one? Probably not. Or, if I bought a box of cards and a few were trimmed, if I needed then they'd get filed away with the rest of the collection until a nicer one came along. |
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I've bought trimmed cards that look fantastic but someone shaved off a little off the tops of them. Brand new looking otherwise. I don't seek them out but I have no problem with them. They have to be advertised as such though.
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Those are great looking. I would take any of them in a heartbeat.
Val- I am leaning towards micust on your Wojo.. Common sense isn't something the TPGs use. ..great card Quote:
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