Tango Eggs Ty Cobb

[samosa4u]

Does that look like Ty Cobb to you? Isn't he wearing glasses? Looks like a 65-year-old man to me.

[Griffins]

do you have a scan of the back? If this is correct it's the 2nd Cobb known, and a different pose than the first. Would be interesting to see if it's numbered on the back.

[Jobu]

Massive +1 to this.

Originally Posted by Griffins

do you have a scan of the back? If this is correct it's the 2nd Cobb known, and a different pose than the first. Would be interesting to see if it's numbered on the back.

[swarmee]

Scanned by PSA as part of their Super Express submission or $35 reholder. They announced on the radio show last night those are the ones to start getting scanned by PSA during the process.

[brass_rat]

Wow, I wonder if this is the one mentioned in the Old Judge article years ago. The leaning on bat example was discovered after this article was published.

[barrysloate]

That would make two known poses for Cobb. That sounds strange. There are no known sets that include both the above Cobb and the yellow background one.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Would be interesting to see if it's numbered on the back.

Well, it might have been. Ya know?

[ullmandds]

I say mislabeled or fake.

[Cozumeleno]

Aren't they both in E106? Or are you talking about another card?

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That would make two known poses for Cobb. That sounds strange. There are no known sets that include both the above Cobb and the yellow background one.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Cozumeleno

Aren't they both in E106? Or are you talking about another card?

This is true

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That would make two known poses for Cobb. That sounds strange. There are no known sets that include both the above Cobb and the yellow background one.

I could be wrong but I think E106 American Caramel includes both Cobb poses (in extremely low quantity)

Oops late to the party

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That would make two known poses for Cobb. That sounds strange. There are no known sets that include both the above Cobb and the yellow background one.

T216 has both poses...

[Rhotchkiss]

Yes, E106 has both. I have asked before why some sets have Cobb on bat, some have facing side, and some have both. Wagner has two different poses (batting and throwing) and they are both represented in all e101/e92, etc variations. But not Cobb. Maybe DJ knows and will chime in

Right! T216 too

[x2drich2000]

This same question came up earlier this year and here was my thinking at the time. I have nothing to support this so just wild thinking and I wouldn't be too surprised if something is found to dispute this:

1) E92/E101/E102 etc are generally considered 1908-1910 issues, E90-1 generally is dated 1909-11, and the T216, E106, D303 are generally believed to be after 1912. So with that in mind, it seems like the leaning on bat came first, and the batting was added as a second pose.

2) For E90-1, the Cobb on bat is remarkably similar to the pose used for Joe Jackson. At the time, Cobb was already a well established star and Jackson was just starting out. I could see them not wanting to include both with the same basic pose, therefore, only including Cobb batting. I'm not sure why they wouldn't have just came up with a different pose for Jackson. For the T216/E106, Jackson was not included in those sets so there was no issue with reusing the leaning on bat pose and, therefore, getting a second pose for Cobb in the process.

Now with Tango Eggs being a 1916 issue, this idea still fits as there is no Jackson in the Tango Eggs set and both poses would have been available.

DJ

[brass_rat]

As DJ points out, the standing would have come first, and the batting comes second.

In T216, the standing can be found with both the early backs -- KNGO (aka thin paper) and Virginia Extra -- as well as the later backs KNIT and K123. The standing KNGO and VE versions will have Detroit Am. team caption while the later backs (KNIT, K123, Mino) will have the Detroit Americans team caption.

The batting version will only be found in the later backs (KNIT, K123, Mino) and will only have the Detroit Americans team caption -- similar to the standing (and now the batting) Tango Cobbs.

Steve

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Cozumeleno

Aren't they both in E106? Or are you talking about another card?

My mistake, sorry.

[Griffins]

I've always thought Tango Eggs were just E106 with a different back printing.
BcD had always said he had seen or owned 2 different Cobb poses in the set.
With no number on the back and the condition it looks like this was not a distributed one. While Tango Eggs have dropped considerably in the last 10 years the beater Cobb sold twice for about 20k. While this one technically has a similar grade the eye appeal is not even close.

[Cozumeleno]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

My mistake, sorry.

No worries - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

[gabrinus]

That is amazing!!...Anthony I believe you are right that Brian D. said that there were two types...the E106 connection makes sense...Steve I remember that article you showed me and being a little skeptical...this one is in slightly better condition than the one I used to own...Jerry

[gabrinus]

Here is a pic of the Tango Cobb and Plank I used to own...I if I remember correctly wasn't there a Wagner Tango rumored to exist??...with this Cobb turning up it may exist...Jerry

[Rhotchkiss]

Jerry, those are awesome. I am sure they were tough to give up - good thing for pics, no? I have seen no Wagner (batting or throwing), but if either exist, I need it!

Didn’t the Plank go to auction not too long ago, maybe REA?

[Griffins]

Plank has changed hands twice

[G1911]

Tango's are out of my price range, but I've always liked this set. This is one awesome discovery! There's probably a few more that were printed but haven't been found - if they all even survive.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by G1911

Tango's are out of my price range, but I've always liked this set. This is one awesome discovery! There's probably a few more that were printed but haven't been found - if they all even survive.

I think most agree with this ..Great cards..

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[Jobu]

Felt like I should contribute the only Tango error to this great thread. I am still excited about the new Cobb!