Stains Get Condoned (SGC)

[oldjudge]

I guess they missed the staining.

[Peter_Spaeth]

But still, such a great company.

[rdwyer]

A stain on their reputation?

[1880nonsports]

seriously though that's a terrible picture - without knowing the card with all the shadows and reflections hard to see anything. In any event - I assume it's quite noticeable. From my experience with OJ and other photo cards - image quality and other photo related concepts are not given consideration. Of course staining is a fault and should be accounted for. Can you post a better pic.? SGC is imperfect as is PSA and any other grading company. Does this one really rise to the level of incompetence as some of the many other miss-graded cards we've seen on here?

[oldjudge]

Henry-It is in an auction that ends today so I will tomorrow. I'll post a link then.

[drcy]

Inconclusive at BEST (bolded, underlined and in blue for maximum hypnotic effect) with the above picture.

[Throttlesteer]

So, in cases where an OJ's image is barely discernable, should they be graded with similar scrutiny? I would take this card over a lot of washed out 5s I've seen.

[pokerplyr80]

I have to admit I can't see a stain either. I'd probably give it a 4 or 5 from what I can see in the picture.

[oldjudge]

Check out Lot 80007 in Heritage. That will show the image.

[RCMcKenzie]

I was an underbidder on the Mike Dorgan card. I didn't pursue it because it would make my Old Judge collection look bad. They had it a "6". To me, it was a 10. I ignore grading companies when it comes to n172 or any sets I follow. Grading is for George Blanda Bowman's.

[Leon]

Old Judges have never been graded the way they should be. It's been a good talking point for years.

[nolemmings]

Funny thing is, it probably would have been downgraded if the same stain was on the back instead of the front.

[oldjudge]

Leon-That isn’t an example of the quirks of Old Judge grading—the graders just missed the staining. Bad job by them.
Todd-I’m sure you are right. The stains would have been more obvious on the back, although most Old Judge collectors couldn’t care less if they were.

[Baseball Rarities]

Jay - you know these photographic cards as well or better than anyone. Out of curiosity, what do you think the accurate grade should be on this card?

[RedsFan1941]

is he buying or selling?

[oldjudge]

Kevin-I know more about what I like than grading. That staining would annoy me a lot more than, for example, paper loss on the back of the card. For an Old Judge card, as you know, photo clarity/visual appeal is paramount. I would call it VG or G/VG if I had to grade it.