PSA advertisement via email for cardbuyer.com?

[chalupacollects]

Just received an email from PSA promoting cardbuyer.com if you want to sell your collection. Claims they are collectors and not dealers... Seems somewhat weird, maybe fishy...collector paying highest prices... lol...

Auction houses I can understand but private collectors being able to advertise via PSA?

Possible conflict of interest for a public company?

Thoughts?

[drcy]

PSA has ads and promotions for dealers and auction houses, so I don't know how this would be much different.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by drcy

PSA has ads and promotions for dealers and auction houses, so I don't know how this would be much different.

+1. Agreed

[pokerplyr80]

Who would want to advertise with PSA of they aren't buying or selling cards or signed memorabilia?

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Who would want to advertise with PSA of they aren't buying or selling cards or signed memorabilia?

I would assume a collector would in fact be buying Or do you think he just collects bills for advertising? And to the person seeing this as something wrong. Are you freaking kidding me? How is this any different than an auction house or dealer advertising? What a dumb inference to make. We sure can find the stupid crap to complain about.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I would assume a collector would in fact be buying Or do you think he just collects bills for advertising? And to the person seeing this as something wrong. Are you freaking kidding me? How is this any different than an auction house or dealer advertising? What a dumb inference to make. We sure can find the stupid crap to complain about.

It would seem as a public company PSA should stick to grading and improving there product and processes and not worry about creating secondary markets that really don't involve them especially when the ad buyer does not provide any contact info, address etc. Who knows who these people might be and what they may be trying to accomplish with the sports card market???

Auction houses and dealers are advertising to accomplish one thing and that is to get inventory to sell and or auction off to the highest bidder. There is a clear delineation of their motives. This PSA ad there are some gray areas...

[phikappapsi]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

It would seem as a public company PSA should stick to grading and improving there product and processes and not worry about creating secondary markets that really don't involve them especially when the ad buyer does not provide any contact info, address etc. Who knows who these people might be and what they may be trying to accomplish with the sports card market???

Auction houses and dealers are advertising to accomplish one thing and that is to get inventory to sell and or auction off to the highest bidder. There is a clear delineation of their motives. This PSA ad there are some gray areas...

As a public company they're doing what they should be doing - driving revenue and profit by selling ad space to the highest bidder.

[Leon]

Although I think Glyn went overboard in his criticism I agree with him. There is no issue with PSA putting out ads for collectors or any person or business as long as they are above board in what they are doing. That is my 1/2 cent.

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

It would seem as a public company PSA should stick to grading and improving there product and processes and not worry about creating secondary markets that really don't involve them especially when the ad buyer does not provide any contact info, address etc. Who knows who these people might be and what they may be trying to accomplish with the sports card market???

Auction houses and dealers are advertising to accomplish one thing and that is to get inventory to sell and or auction off to the highest bidder. There is a clear delineation of their motives. This PSA ad there are some gray areas...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Welcome to CardBuyer.com. My name is Rich, my 9 year old son and I are passionate about collecting vintage sports cards especially hockey and baseball cards!

What happened to people using their full names when doing business? I mean, I don't know who half the people selling big cards on ebay are, no names given.

[CTDean]

The firms that pay PSA for advertising, also pay PSA for grading. The next time you see a PSA graded card and wonder "How did that card deserve that grade"? Could it be a return on those advertising dollars spent?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Welcome to CardBuyer.com. My name is Rich, my 9 year old son and I are passionate about collecting vintage sports cards especially hockey and baseball cards!

What happened to people using their full names when doing business? I mean, I don't know who half the people selling big cards on ebay are, no names given.

I guess I agree with your post, but I approve of him keeping his son incognito. There can't be too many Rich's in the world.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I would assume a collector would in fact be buying Or do you think he just collects bills for advertising? And to the person seeing this as something wrong. Are you freaking kidding me? How is this any different than an auction house or dealer advertising? What a dumb inference to make. We sure can find the stupid crap to complain about.

You can not tell me that guy will only buy and buy and promises he will NEVER sell your items that you sell him. Seems like a scam to me. Probably says that so he can get the market that doesn't want to deal with dealers.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

You can not tell me that guy will only buy and buy and promises he will NEVER sell your items that you sell him. Seems like a scam to me. Probably says that so he can get the market that doesn't want to deal with dealers.

Gonna have to agree here with this. It appears I have done business with cardbuyer.com. Here is their id on ebay, https://www.ebay.com/sch/cardbuyer20...1&_ipg=&_from=. Nothing wrong with someone who collects, who also sells, but the website makes it sound like they are JUST collecting and not selling. Sorta is misleading to those selling to them that think they are getting top dollar because they are the end users. People should always do their homework and know what their stuff is worth before they go to sell their stuff to anyone. This is just another example as to why. If you are happy with the price you are being paid then it does not matter who the person is that you are selling it to and what they will then do with your stuff.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Pretty generic name how do you know it's same person, and the link is to someone who has almost no cards and a whole bunch of unrelated stuff.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Pretty generic name how do you know it's same person, and the link is to someone who has almost no cards and a whole bunch of unrelated stuff.

He introduced himself as Rich and his email, which I will not post, would suggest they are the same people.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

He introduced himself as Rich and his email, which I will not post, would suggest they are the same people.

OK. He appears to only be selling a few very modest cards though, at least under his own ID. Now he could well be consigning major pieces and we would never know.

[mechanicalman]

Audible laugh. I just clicked on the link and was surprised to find he's re-selling my company's products. Just doesn't seem the like the profile to broadcast a "will buy million dollar collections" message through PSA, but who knows?

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Welcome to CardBuyer.com. My name is Rich, my 9 year old son and I are passionate about collecting vintage sports cards especially hockey and baseball cards!

What happened to people using their full names when doing business? I mean, I don't know who half the people selling big cards on ebay are, no names given.

I imagine his full name is Rich McMillions. Then again, I do have a Rich imagination.

Brian (McPoorHouse)

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

OK. He appears to only be selling a few very modest cards though, at least under his own ID. Now he could well be consigning major pieces and we would never know.

I did not look at what he was selling very closely but I did look at his feedback for what he has sold. He may not be a full time dealer but it is clear from fb that he does sell cards. No crime but it his ad/website is slightly misleading. Considering the horror stories I have heard in the hobby, this is not even an honorable mention. Was just sharing info I happened to have. I see nothing wrong with PSA taking his money to reach collectors. He who pays more wins.