I just need other opinions

[cardsnstuff]

So I have card x on ebay for 54 {ok I'm on high side but have BO} ; High VCP is 55+ change; Avg Vcp is 41+change; Guy offers 40 {ok fair offer}. Oh by the way 3 have sold in same grade over last 10 months. I counter at 47.50 {half way point} than crickets, which means it will expire. NBD, can't sell them all. I just don't get it; I am shipping item for free; does the 7.50 really make or break the deal? I am a collector too, and If I see something I been searching for and a nice copy pops up I am not sweating a small difference. If it were off by $100 or more, that's one thing but less than $10. Come on man; I'm buying especially if free shipping. Can anyone explain this for me, I am just vastly confused. This isn't the first time a small difference {less than $10} has resulted in no sale. {edited to add- Next grade up is +200 on avg vcp}

[Orioles1954]

Perhaps he realized he wasn't that interested in your card and moved on. It happens.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Perhaps he realized he wasn't that interested in your card and moved on. It happens.

even if that's the case why not just decline, rather than crickets, I guess the real question does a few $ {less than 10} make or break the deal?

[buymycards]

My take on it is this:

1. On lower value cards, most people don't give a crap about VCP.

2. When I receive offers and I respond with a reasonable counter offer, I have NEVER had anyone accept my counter offer.

3. If you really want to sell the card, in my opinion you should have taken the offer and moved on. Now you still have the card sitting in your inventory.

Rick

[JollyElm]

You have to look at all of this from a buyer's perspective. He's hoping to get it at a steal (all of us buyers want to get things at a steal). There is probably nothing more to it. You throw an offer out there hoping the seller accepts it. When he doesn't, oh well, time to move on.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by buymycards

My take on it is this:

1. On lower value cards, most people don't give a crap about VCP.

2. When I receive offers and I respond with a reasonable counter offer, I have NEVER had anyone accept my counter offer.

3. If you really want to sell the card, in my opinion you should have taken the offer and moved on. Now you still have the card sitting in your inventory.

Rick

Interesting, I have counter offers accepted all the time. People hit me with their offer I counter and explain that the counter is my best price. sometimes people try to haggle and I re-counter with the same number, sometimes they pass, and about half the time they accept.

[egbeachley]

I don’t mind selling at 3% below market. But I’m sure not buying at 15% above market. That’s just stupid.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Tony I agree with you. It is frustrating. It feels as if the seller always has to be the one to give in now a days. Read some human psychology books. It's amazing how people think.

[chalupacollects]

Try a higher BIN, see if someone sends an offer that you are more likely to accept... I've seen people do that to and it works...

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Interesting, I have counter offers accepted all the time. People hit me with their offer I counter and explain that the counter is my best price. sometimes people try to haggle and I re-counter with the same number, sometimes they pass, and about half the time they accept.

This is actually the kind of response I really like from the seller. I am a buyer and I haggle. I don't like the process of haggling but on eBay there are some sellers who price accordingly and others that tack on 50%. I've offered 50% on a buy it now and got accepted and I've offered 90% and got rejected or countered.

I had a seller give me a best and final on a Brooks RC - it was lower condition and his price was only $8 more than my offer. It was above the max amount I set in my mind. So I let the offer expire. The shipping was more than the standard $3.50 for a bubble mailer and this was factored into my offer. A day later the seller came back and made me an offer to reduce the shipping and the price would essentially be what I offered in the first place (I didn't solicit this). I felt that was fair and we got the deal done. Keep in mind that the $8 was on a card that was at least double the price of the card the OP is referring to.

There are not a ton of cards that are must haves for me and if I miss out on one today there are going to be 10 more in the next two weeks. So I understand going over on special cards that don't come up often but on cards that are frequently available I often hold at my price.

I also will go over my price if there is a really good eBay bucks deal or an eBay coupon for 15%. I was waiting to make a final offer on this card if eBay had a deal come through but they didn't.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

I guess the real question does a few $ {less than 10} make or break the deal?

Absolutely...usually out of principle. Generally speaking if someone wants to quibble over a few dollars then I don't want to deal with them.

[x2drich2000]

While you might not consider $7.50 to be significantly more, keep in mind that is almost 20% more than his offer. Sometimes people have a set number in mind and won't go any higher, even if it is just a $1.

[x2drich2000]

Also, if you worried about less than $10 making or breaking the deal, why didn't you have just accept his original offer? In other words why does it have to be on the buyer to pay more and not the seller to take less to make the sale? Not expecting an answer, but just something else to think about.

As far as why not just declining the offer, what can I say, that's just the way some people are.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Also, if you worried about less than $10 making or breaking the deal, why didn't you have just accept his original offer? In other words why does it have to be on the buyer to pay more and not the seller to take less to make the sale? Not expecting an answer, but just something else to think about.

As far as why not just declining the offer, what can I say, that's just the way some people are.

I guess, but it seems like I am always giving in as the seller. I sell way more with BO than without, so that is why I continue to use it.

[BruceinGa]

What irks me is when I make an offer many time I don't get a response until much later. At times the counter offer is a very small discount from the original price. I usually don't respond after that.

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

I guess, but it seems like I am always giving in as the seller. I sell way more with BO than without, so that is why I continue to use it.

There is no black or white answer here. You'll get just as many different types of people as you get answers here.

I've had the same thing happen. I counter most of the time because most offers I find are lower (people trying to get a steal). I too get a little irritated when someone just lets the offer expire rather than counter or decline. I would never ignore an offer.

One thing that has worked for me at times, is to make sure to include a message with it, including thanking them for their offer. Something to the effect of:

Thank you for your offer. I would be more comfortable at $XX. If you can do that please accept and I will get your card shipped out today.

If it is a final, final offer I will change the text to reflect that. Occasionally, I will factor shipping and say I can deduct x to cover shipping or in your case remind them that your price includes shipping, well packed in a bubble mailer with tracking.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

While you might not consider $7.50 to be significantly more, keep in mind that is almost 20% more than his offer. Sometimes people have a set number in mind and won't go any higher, even if it is just a $1.

^^this^^ I make an offer and it is either accepted or I pass. Some of us hate haggling, I know some like it but I am not one of those guys.

[ullmandds]

maybe he was stoned and placing bunches of lowball offers and then the next day decided he wasn't interested.

[1880nonsports]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

maybe he was stoned and placing bunches of lowball offers and then the next day decided he wasn't interested.

it's not me I'm talking about. It's a friend