Hofstra show

[Snapolit1]

Did anyone go this weekend? My first one at that venue and really thought it blew big time. 300 tables? Please. I walked through the entire show in 25 minutes. Nearly done with shows at this point. Which sucks, because I recall how excited I was to attend them.

I realize many of you live in parts of the country where there is no real chance of seeing a show good or bad, so maybe I shouldn’t be bitching.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Did anyone go this weekend? My first one at that venue and really thought it blew big time. 300 tables? Please. I walked through the entire show in 25 minutes. Nearly done with shows at this point. Which sucks, because I recall how excited I was to attend them.

I realize many of you live in parts of the country where there is no real chance of seeing a show good or bad, so maybe I shouldn’t be bitching.

Philly took a huge leap forward this last time around, especially for discerning collectors such as yourself.

[Snapolit1]

Absolutely. Loved the Philly show I went to. Will def go again.

[quitcrab]

I did great at the show... Plenty of vintage dealers. Nice venue with plenty of space. Always has a wide variety of autograph guest. The nice weather may have kept some from attending, which probably hurt the dealer's s little.
Scott

[MVSNYC]

I grew up on LI, went to many a Hofstra Show. Was small, but served its purpose. I used to also goto the Fort Washington Show, that was always pretty great, Ted will tell ya. I’m planning to hit a Philly Show next year with my son, it’ll be his first show.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Did anyone go this weekend? My first one at that venue and really thought it blew big time. 300 tables? Please. I walked through the entire show in 25 minutes. Nearly done with shows at this point. Which sucks, because I recall how excited I was to attend them.

I realize many of you live in parts of the country where there is no real chance of seeing a show good or bad, so maybe I shouldn’t be bitching.

It is your God given right as a human being to gripe. That said, be glad you don't live near Dallas where it has been a tough go for vintage card shows. There is Tri-Star in Houston but not anything like that, especially for vintage, in the North Texas area. We have some nice, smaller, local shows but they are usually 90%+ newer shiney stuff, and that is IF I set up. If I don't set up, that percentage goes to about 97.4% for the newer stuff...

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[bigfish]

Originally Posted by Leon

It is your God given right as a human being to gripe. That said, be glad you don't live near Dallas where it has been a tough go for vintage card shows. There is Tri-Star in Houston but not anything like that, especially for vintage, in the North Texas area. We have some nice, smaller, local shows but they are usually 90%+ newer shiney stuff, and that is IF I set up. If I don't set up, that percentage goes to about 97.4% for the newer stuff...

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Well said. If I was so unhappy after attending a baseball card show I would find a new hobby.

I went to Hofstra and had a great time. I had dinner with a group of friends and bought quite abit of stuff at the show. 1926 Ruth exhibit, 1933 goudey Ruth, t206 red Cobb, t206 Dahlen brown Hindu, Jim Brown rookie, circa 1910 cubs real photo postcard, domino disc complete set, 48 leaf satchel Paige, 48 leaf Jackie Robinson, Ruth, Musial, DiMaggio, and made a contact to buy some Ruth and Gehrig cards at the Boston show.

Also met a group of people from Australia at the hotel bar. Had lots of laughs over a few drinks.


None of these cards are for sale.

[botn]

I live in Los Angeles. I would be thrilled if we hosted a bad show even once a year.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by bigfish

Well said. If I was so unhappy after attending a baseball card show I would find a new hobby.

I went to Hofstra and had a great time. I had dinner with a group of friends and bought quite abit of stuff at the show. 1926 Ruth exhibit, 1933 goudey Ruth, t206 red Cobb, t206 Dahlen brown Hindu, Jim Brown rookie, circa 1910 cubs real photo postcard, domino disc complete set, 48 leaf satchel Paige, 48 leaf Jackie Robinson, Ruth, Musial, DiMaggio, and made a contact to buy some Ruth and Gehrig cards at the Boston show.

Also met a group of people from Australia at the hotel bar. Had lots of laughs over a few drinks.


None of these cards are for sale.

Wow, talk about reading too much into my message. I said the show was weak. So I should quit the hobby now. OK. Sure. I think perhaps you are a little too close to the show and don't appreciate my opinion.

I saw precious few rare vintage cards for sale. Maybe you bought every one. Similar to what Leon said about Texas, I saw tens of thousands of refractor cards. Which I walked by like pretty much everyone else.
I find cards on ebay at 2 am in my pajamas that I would have to attend shows for the next 125 years to run into. That's the reality of the hobby right now. It's not good or bad in my mind, but it is what it is. I have no issue with on line purchases. The rare times I find a special card at a show its always ridiculously insanely overpriced. Book value $1900 asking $4500, that kind of silliness. But it is nice to talk to a few cool dealers. A guy at Hofstra, Asian guy around 40, was really knowledgeable and a pleasure to talk with. Sorry I didn't get his name/card. And always nice to see in person some of the nicer cards coming up in some of the upcoming big auction houses.
Not a complete waste of time. The size of that show was grossly inflated. That was my main point.

What hotel bar were you at? The Marriot nrer the Coliseum? And what does drinks with people from Australia at a hotel unaffiliated with the show have to do with the quality of a card show? And how was breakfast?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by botn

I live in Los Angeles. I would be thrilled if we hosted a bad show even once a year.

Really amazing to me that LA doesn't have a great show every year. Mind boggling.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Wow, talk about reading too much into my message. I said the show was weak. So I should quit the hobby now. OK. Sure. I think perhaps you are a little too close to the show and don't appreciate my opinion.

I saw precious few rare vintage cards for sale. Maybe you bought every one. Similar to what Leon said about Texas, I saw tens of thousands of refractor cards. Which I walked by like pretty much everyone else.
I find cards on ebay at 2 am in my pajamas that I would have to attend shows for the next 125 years to run into. That's the reality of the hobby right now. It's not good or bad in my mind, but it is what it is. I have no issue with on line purchases. The rare times I find a special card at a show its always ridiculously insanely overpriced. Book value $1900 asking $4500, that kind of silliness. But it is nice to talk to a few cool dealers. A guy at Hofstra, Asian guy around 40, was really knowledgeable and a pleasure to talk with. Sorry I didn't get his name/card. And always nice to see in person some of the nicer cards coming up in some of the upcoming big auction houses.
Not a complete waste of time. The size of that show was grossly inflated. That was my main point.

What hotel bar were you at? The Marriot nrer the Coliseum? And what does drinks with people from Australia at a hotel unaffiliated with the show have to do with the quality of a card show? And how was breakfast?

I'm going to side with Bigfish on this one. The show definitely had some nice available vintage including very nice T206s, Candy cards, Cracker Jacks and high grade 50/60s stars. Unfortunately, the attendance was light most likely due to both days being atypically 75 degrees and sunny (people wanting to partake in outside activities).

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

I'm going to side with Bigfish on this one. The show definitely had some nice available vintage including very nice T206s, Candy cards, Cracker Jacks and high grade 50/60s stars. Unfortunately, the attendance was light most likely due to both days being atypically 75 degrees and sunny (people wanting to partake in outside activities).

thank goodness the show wasn’t held a few days after a presidential election. ghost town.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

thank goodness the show wasn’t held a few days after a presidential election. ghost town.

Thank god it wasn't held on the night of the Presidential election. Will give you that.

The reaming PWCC gave me that night was pretty epic. E.g., last 3 sales were 750, 775, and 695 and mine sold for $290. Stuff like that. Unreal. Many times over. Would be more humorous of course if it happened to someone else. Live and learn. I've consigned well over 100K of cards since then to a bunch of real AHs and no complaints. Treated professionally by all.

[yanksfan09]

I went Sunday and was very slow, I figured most Yankee Fans too bummed out to go. I mostly wanted to go to get stuff graded but bought a couple of things. There was some decent vintage but a couple tables less than usual of vintage/prewar.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Did anyone go this weekend? My first one at that venue and really thought it blew big time. 300 tables? Please. I walked through the entire show in 25 minutes. Nearly done with shows at this point. Which sucks, because I recall how excited I was to attend them.

I realize many of you live in parts of the country where there is no real chance of seeing a show good or bad, so maybe I shouldn’t be bitching.

Hi, Steve. Your post reminds me of the now defunct Gibraltar Trade Center shows in Mount Clemons and Taylor Michigan. We were thrilled in the early 1990's when they were advertised to and did have 500 tables. Being relative newbies at that time, we really didn't mind the ratio of current to vintage cards (hot current rookies were the "thing" then). As time went by, however, and the insert craze developed and grew ever stronger, we began to see less and less vintage, with just a few exceptions (one of which was a dealer who specialized in altered cards, apparently running them through a paper press/mill to enlarge them slightly, then cutting off the rough, worn corners and/or edges as they were cut back down to size, giving them the appearance of at least NrMt-Mt cards to the uninitiated--TPG pretty much took care of that situation). It wasn't too long afterwards that the vast majority of tables had only the new shiny stuff, and a vintage collector could walk through the entire show in 15-20 minutes. Ah, the good old days!

Best wishes,

Larry