Harry Steinfeldt, the "unsung" (pardon the pun) Cubs hero. Let's see some cards, etc.

[tedzan]

Considered by many as one of the best 3rd Basemen during the 1st decade of the 20th Century, Harry Steinfeldt does not get much respect.
He was overshadowed by the sportsmedia's fascination with Tinker, Evers and Chance. Harry was an important factor in their defensive play.
His best year at bat was 1906 when he batted .327 and led the NL with 173 Hits and 83 RBI's.
Furthermore, Harry was the Cubs hero in the 1907 World Series win over Detroit.....batting .471 with 8 hits in this 5 game series.













TED Z
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[JohnP0621]

BL Back

[JohnP0621]

Steinfeldt back

[rats60]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Considered by many as one of the best 3rd Basemen during the 1st decade of the 20th Century,
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I am pretty sure that Jimmy Collins is universally considered the best 3rd baseman of the 1st decade of the 20th century.

Collins OPS+ during the decade were 97, 141, 124, 126, 110, 121, 120, 111, then 65 his last season with a total WAR of 33.3 in 9 seasons.

Steinfeldt OPS+ 76, 102, 100, 136, 88, 99, 151, 101, 88 and 105 with a total WAR of 27.7 in 10 seasons.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by rats60

I am pretty sure that Jimmy Collins is universally considered the best 3rd baseman of the 1st decade of the 20th century.

Collins OPS+ during the decade were 97, 141, 124, 126, 110, 121, 120, 111, then 65 his last season with a total WAR of 33.3 in 9 seasons.

Steinfeldt OPS+ 76, 102, 100, 136, 88, 99, 151, 101, 88 and 105 with a total WAR of 27.7 in 10 seasons.

Uhhh, no....Steinfeldt was better...There are a lot of people wondering why Collins is in the HOF.....He didn't even have 2000 career hits!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by rats60

I am pretty sure that Jimmy Collins is universally considered the best 3rd baseman of the 1st decade of the 20th century.

Collins OPS+ during the decade were 97, 141, 124, 126, 110, 121, 120, 111, then 65 his last season with a total WAR of 33.3 in 9 seasons.

Steinfeldt OPS+ 76, 102, 100, 136, 88, 99, 151, 101, 88 and 105 with a total WAR of 27.7 in 10 seasons.

Maybe you should post a Jimmy Collins card.

[Kawika]

My Steinfeldts

$Shield Postcard


E97 B/W


E90-3


T207


T206

[edjs]

I'm sorry, but the "no pun intended" in the title went over my head. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just don't understand the phrase?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by edjs

I'm sorry, but the "no pun intended" in the title went over my head. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just don't understand the phrase?

Hi Ed

"no pun intended" in my title refers to the poem (and song) about "Tinker to Evers to Chance" (which of course Steinfeldt is not included).

In 1910, Franklin Pierce Adams wrote this poem, which became very popular in that era.


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[Santo10Fan]

From Harry to KB @3B

[brianp-beme]

Steinfeldt, AKA Pierce.

Brian

[milkit1]

My m116 proof card m116 steinfledt both.jpg

[brass_rat]

Here are the two RC types. The Type 2 is one of my favorite RC cards -- it's the only player that I know of where the name caption is in the Type 1 font (yet the team change is in the Type 2 font)...both name and team are with the blue ink.

Having Cincinnati on the Type 2 is also a curiosity for me.

SABR has an interesting bio that details Steinfeldt's decline in 1911-1912 and his young passing at the age of 37 in 1914.
http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/c1dc8fd5

Steve

[Jobu]

Interesting Steve, I never noticed that.

Your SABR link says:

In February 1912 he signed to manage the Cincinnati team in the new United States League, but when that circuit folded he accepted an invitation to try out for the St. Louis Cardinals. Drawing his unconditional release before the season opened,

However, the Wikipedia (the bastion of all that is true) says:

In 1912, Steinfeldt returned to minor league baseball. He managed the Cincinnati Pippins of the United States Baseball League, but the league folded in midseason.[1] He also played for the Louisville Colonels of the American Association, but was released in May. [10] In June, he became the manager of the Meriden Metropolitans of the Cotton States League.[11]

and for the USB League:

The league's regular season began May 1, 1912 and ended June 5.

Maybe the Type II is showing him with Cincinnati of the USB League? If so, that is fun.

No matter how you slice it, the reasoning for using both of these teams in the caption is based being associated with both over apparently a total of about 4 months.