Best investment in 5 years

[rtsmith18]

I have seen skyrocketing prices on signed vintage cards, as well as 1952 Topps and high grade rookies. What do you think the next trend will be? What will be a good investment to buy now and unload in five years?

[autograf]

Pork bellies

[ullmandds]

Topps t206.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Now that was funny.

[Mountaineer1999]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

topps t206.

Lolollolol.

[bmattioli]

Aaron Judge? But I'm a Redsox fan..

[jb217676]

Probably these little, fantastic, realistic works of fine art!

[iwantitiwinit]

T206 Plank. Can't remember the last one I've seen for sale.

[Mdmtx]

I can factually state what the best investment cards will be. And there is no doubt. My track record is flawless.


Anything I don't buy will appreciate at 30% annually.

[sam majors]

My future is tied up in POGS. Seriously, I have enough money to last me the rest of my life, as long as I die a few hours from now!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

I can factually state what the best investment cards will be. And there is no doubt. My track record is flawless.


Anything I don't buy will appreciate at 30% annually.

And anything I do buy will depreciate at a similar rate.

[EvilKing00]

investing in the Babe imo it pretty solid

[Mdmtx]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And anything I do buy will depreciate at a similar rate.

Much like me. All actions have an equal and opposite reaction. Lol

[Scocs]

Plastics....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Lefty Gomez could heat up.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

T206 Plank. Can't remember the last one I've seen for sale.

There was one in a Hunt/EBAY auction in July.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/172743040754?rmvSB=true

A Memory lane auction in May.
https://memorylaneinc.com/site//bids...e?itemid=42305

And one in Heritage in February.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...s?type=VCP7185

[Kenny Cole]

Fakes, counterfeits and altered cards. Those guys are making a shit ton of money. How depressing.

[Topnotchsy]

You have to ask yourself what factors lead to prices increasing over time. In general if people expected something to increase a lot in the future, they would be paying more for it now, so it likely needs to be something that is off people's radars.

Some things that drive prices up:

1) Player making the HOF (particularly for autographs) - Are there any players you anticipate may make the HOF who have been overlooked? Possibly someone in the Negro Leagues?

2) Modern player who performs well beyond expectations - Is there anyone who you really believe in that is not expensive now? Maybe a rookie or young star...

3) Cards or items that are "discovered" - A recent example is the 1925 Exhibits Lou Gehrig which people kind of rediscovered as Gehrig's rookie card and has jumped tremendously. Is there a player or card that is waiting to be (re)discovered?

[cammb]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

topps t206.

lol

[ALR-bishop]

rt---if I knew the answer to your question I would likely keep it to myself and be out buying whatever it was. But I honestly have no idea as to the answer.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Aaron Judge for sure.

[The Nasty Nati]

Honestly. 90s rare inserts are a good investment for players like Griffey, Ripken, Bonds, Chipper, and Thomas. The key inserts like Essential Credentials, Donruss Crusade, 1996 Select Mirrors, Skybox Red Rubies, 1999 24kt Gold, etc are selling at vintage prices and above these days and are only going to go up IMO.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rtsmith18

I have seen skyrocketing prices on signed vintage cards, as well as 1952 Topps and high grade rookies. What do you think the next trend will be? What will be a good investment to buy now and unload in five years?

I think the big hof'ers will continue to do well....and I especially like Cy Young as I don't think his card values have risen as much as the other big HOF'ers...

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Honestly. 90s rare inserts are a good investment for players like Griffey, Ripken, Bonds, Chipper, and Thomas. The key inserts like Essential Credentials, Donruss Crusade, 1996 Select Mirrors, Skybox Red Rubies, 1999 24kt Gold, etc are selling at vintage prices and above these days and are only going to go up IMO.

I was going to say this as well. I have noticed it too. Harder to find inserts seem to keep going up. The demand is surpassing the supply IMO. On the football side, some of the Playoff inserts are hot. Great designs and limited quantities available. Try to find them at good prices and you will see what I mean.

[Il Padrino]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Honestly. 90s rare inserts are a good investment for players like Griffey, Ripken, Bonds, Chipper, and Thomas. The key inserts like Essential Credentials, Donruss Crusade, 1996 Select Mirrors, Skybox Red Rubies, 1999 24kt Gold, etc are selling at vintage prices and above these days and are only going to go up IMO.

Originally Posted by vintagechris

I was going to say this as well. I have noticed it too. Harder to find inserts seem to keep going up. The demand is surpassing the supply IMO. On the football side, some of the Playoff inserts are hot. Great designs and limited quantities available. Try to find them at good prices and you will see what I mean.

I'm intrigued. What football items are you referring to?

I have tons of 90's baseball inserts but don't recall the ones you listed above. Are there others that are doing well?

[KCRfan1]

I don't recall the OP indicating if they were going to be the buyer, or if this is a random question.

Also, it would help if the OP said the dollar amount of the investment. At least we could have some direction to move in.....

Otherwise, buy a '52 Mantle, PSA 10.

[drcy]

Always remember that one's "investment" isn't based on the value of the item, but what YOU bought it for and what YOU sell it for. If you overpay for a item that goes up in book value you can lose money, and if you get a steal on an item that is flat in value you can make money.

A common investing mistake is picking what is a good investment then overpaying for it.

[orly57]

About a year ago, a thread similar to this one convinced me to pull the trigger on a 25 Exhibits Gehrig just before they blew up. I think that the commenter saw the 4 key elements in that card: 1. Legendary player 2. Undervalued card for years 3. Relatively rare and 4. it was a rookie card whether or not some acknowledged it as such. I don't know if there is a secret or a formula to finding "the next big thing," but I think those four elements, or a combination of a few, are probably a good bet.

[bbcard1]

I think a nice Seaver rookie has room. One could argue he's a top ten pitcher of all time and the 1967 set is attractive and aggressively collected, and it's a legitimately tough card.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by orly57

About a year ago, a thread similar to this one convinced me to pull the trigger on a 25 Exhibits Gehrig just before they blew up. I think that the commenter saw the 4 key elements in that card: 1. Legendary player 2. Undervalued card for years 3. Relatively rare and 4. it was a rookie card whether or not some acknowledged it as such. I don't know if there is a secret or a formula to finding "the next big thing," but I think those four elements, or a combination of a few, are probably a good bet.

As is being discussed in another thread the 47 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson fits all those criteria. If anyone has one for sale let me know! :-)

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

As is being discussed in another thread the 47 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson fits all those criteria. If anyone has one for sale let me know! :-)

100% agree. Glad I snagged mine a while back.

I concur. I really believe that one day the 1947 Bond Bread is going to be recognized as Jackie's true RC, everyone is going to want one, and then quickly realize there's only a little over 100 copies to go around compared to thousands of 1949 Leafs

By the way, that PSA 5 is amazing Dean!

[DeanH3]

Thanks Dan! Yours is quite stunning as well.

[bbcard1]

Of course the best way would be to find a player who is cheap and take a risk they will blow up. I would probably take a gamble on Jake Gatewood if I was going for the high risk category because he is cheap and young and made a good jump this year. He's still in high A ball, but he is showing signs of coming into his own and has potential to be a star. I saw him in a few games and like his bat speed. But it would be very high risk, high reward.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think the big hof'ers will continue to do well....and I especially like Cy Young as I don't think his card values have risen as much as the other big HOF'ers...

Completely agree. Judging by the Net54 poll of the most unbreakable MLB record, all the ingredients are there for it to rise.

[vintagerookies51]

The Bond Bread Jackie Robinson is immediately what came to my mind based on those 4 things says. Unfortunately I think only the Portait has the potential to be the next big card, as most of the others have too few in existence

[esd10]

I believe prewar baseball prices will drop based on the vintage collectors dieing out and this younger generation has no interest in these cards except for a couple of hofers.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by esd10

I believe prewar baseball prices will drop based on the vintage collectors dieing out and this younger generation has no interest in these cards except for a couple of hofers.

I think exactly the opposite. The people who saw Wagner and Cobb or Ruth and Gehrig are already out of the hobby. Guys who saw Williams, DiMaggio, J. Robinson, etc. will soon be leaving the hobby. I see demand remaining strong for prewar, but dropping for postwar cards with higher population numbers. Key Hofers from iconic sets like t206 and 1933 Goudey are going to continue to rise in value.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by esd10

I believe prewar baseball prices will drop based on the vintage collectors dieing out and this younger generation has no interest in these cards except for a couple of hofers.

That thought has crossed my mind in the past, but then I realized I grew up watching Wade Boggs, Ken Griffey Jr., and Cal Ripken. I never saw Pete Rose play, or much less Ty Cobb. I don't think it matters much whether we saw them play. There will always be guys who love baseball, value history, and love to collect. The guys who collect Mike Trout today will probably do the same. Maybe you are right, but I'm guessing that most guys who spend a ton of money on cards today never witnessed a Ted Williams at bat.

[Davidlisa]

I think 1952 Topps will always remain strong. In my opinion, the prices for signed cards are too high. In a lot of cases, a card of lower grade is used for autographs and I just don't think the signature in most cases adds that much value. Don't get me wrong some of these are very rare but I think this pricing is a bit too high. I think unopened product before 1980 will continue to grow in price and higher grade PSA HOF cards before 1970 in 8, 9, and 10 will continue to increase.

Originally Posted by orly57

That thought has crossed my mind in the past, but then I realized I grew up watching Wade Boggs, Ken Griffey Jr., and Cal Ripken. I never saw Pete Rose play, or much less Ty Cobb. I don't think it matters much whether we saw them play. There will always be guys who love baseball, value history, and love to collect. The guys who collect Mike Trout today will probably do the same. Maybe you are right, but I'm guessing that most guys who spend a ton of money on cards today never witnessed a Ted Williams at bat.

I don't even watch regular season baseball and haven't been an avid fan since the early 90's but it has no bearing on my interest in the history of the sport and the immortal players who played the game when it was truly America's favorite past time. I suspect that will continue for me indefinitely and will likely be the case for generations to come.

[BeanTown]

It's apart of American history. Baseball is Americas game. Now maybe 100 years from now soccer cards will go for crazy money taking place for baseball (I hope not), but until that day comes, baseball is here to stay. Collecting HOFers that have passed away and their stats are cemented into the record books won't ever change. If anything, these iconic players will become even bigger lengends, and part of our history that all people can embrace.

I think that's wishful thinking that the younger generation won't collect as passionately as we do, but I don't see any trend of that happening whatsoever. The same logic can carry over to stamps, coins, toys, comics, art, classic cars, wine, and just about any other collectible.

It's true the younger generation like to wear their art as a tattoos and the metal they collect are piercings. However, People like to be unique and have stuff that most others don't. For this reason collecting HOFers is a pretty good investment for years to come and we won't being seeing a dip anytime soon in our hobby.

[orly57]

Every older generation has thought that the younger generations are somehow different: more lazy, disrespectful, and less aware of history than their generation was. But men of all generations grow up, get a job, have kids, and gain a healthy respect for history.

2,400 years ago, Socrates had this to say about the younger generation:

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

[Sean]

I love that someone on Net54 can not only quote Socrates, but can relate the quote to baseball cards.

[Republicaninmass]

HEH

just saw a 47 bond bread in a 2 for 1500

Has that ship sailed?

[insidethewrapper]

Can you imagine the media coverage if a coin was put out by the US Mint with only a production of "100" or "10" or "1" ?? The demand would be great, it would be all over the news. Maybe the best investment is in the modern cards with very low production runs. The best investors have always said " buy when everyone else is selling !"

[vintagerookies51]

Early Ruth cards

[Spike]

A lot of hobby media attention today's on breaking unopened modern product, so not a big surprise to see parallel rise in vintage unopened prices. Wish I could get on the Cy Young bandwagon, except I don't see modern pitchers challenging any meaningful career records. Until someone gets close to a strikeout or franchise record that points back to the prewar era, too few people remember his significance. Home run and other hitting records seem to compare to the modern game in a way I'm not sure pitching does.

I think DiMaggio and a handful of other non-Ruth/Mantle Yankees are due for a resurgence, once they win another title.

[GregMitch34]

Aren't the Bond Bread cards for Jackie actually a series of 13--all now claimed to be "rookie" and equally rare and costly? Or no?

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Aren't the Bond Bread cards for Jackie actually a series of 13--all now claimed to be "rookie" and equally rare and costly? Or no?

The only one being claimed as his rookie is the 1947 Bond Bread Portrait with facsimile autograph, which was the first card released and is believed to have been a promotional card for the rest of the series of 13, which were released between 1947-1950. The Portrait with facsimile differs in many ways from the other 12 in the set in that it has a unique back from the rest of the set which includes biographical information, higher population (as in 100+ graded examples), facsimile autograph and its release can be pinpointed to June-August 1947 by ads in African American newspapers. The other 12 have value in that they are extremely low pop, with some as low as approximately a dozen graded copies, but they stake no claim to the title of being his true RC...at least not as far as I'm concerned