Deadball Trivia

[frankbmd]

Name all the pitchers who pitched more than 300 innings in a single season without giving up a single home run from 1900-1920.

Hint: One did not face Babe Ruth and another one did and a third faced Babe Ruth every day.

[tiger8mush]

didn't face Babe, so must be a Nat'l Leaguer. Marquard? Was it a HOFer?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

didn't face Babe, so must be a Nat'l Leaguer. Marquard? Was it a HOFer?

There may be more than one answer so,

Babe may not have hit a home run in one of the years this happened, so it could be an American Leaguer.

Marquard is incorrect.

This feat could have been acheived by both a HOFer and a non-HOFer.

Hope this helps.

[trdcrdkid]

I know at least one pitcher who did this, but I cheated. He's not in the HOF, but he is in T206.

[tiger8mush]

Deacon Phillippe?

Unless this is a trick question and it was Babe Ruth - since he couldn't have pitched to himself haha.

[tiger8mush]

Waddell?

yeah I'm just gonna name every good pitcher that comes to mind

[trdcrdkid]

Now I found another one who did it, a HOFer. But I cheated again.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Hint: One did not face Babe Ruth and the other one did.

WaJo...and...Ruth?

[trdcrdkid]

Oh, I found another HOFer who did it.

[frankbmd]

You can limit your reply to the number of innings pitched by your answer rather than the name.

Actually there may be multiple pairs as they didn't call this the deadball era for nothing.

[trdcrdkid]

I found a fourth one, a non-HOFer. All four that I've found are in T206.

[frankbmd]

Question revised to accommodate Mr. Kathman.

[trdcrdkid]

Frank -- after doing more research, I've found that there were only two guys who did this after 1910, and with that limitation your (almost original) question would have been correctly answerable. I found four guys who did it between 1900 and 1910, one of whom did it twice. Two of the six guys who did this are not in T206, one pre-1910 and one post-1910.

[frankbmd]

The two I have after 1910 both did it in the same year and both faced Ruth.

[Sean]

I'll guess that one of them was Eddie Plank. He would have done it before Ruth was in the majors.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Sean

I'll guess that one of them was Eddie Plank. He would have done it before Ruth was in the majors.

Plank - No

With six answers so far, this question is beginning to rival the following:

Name all the PGA golfers who have had a hole in one.

[tiger8mush]

Matty, Cicotte, Coombs, Ames, Chesbro, Wood, Leever?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Matty, Cicotte, Coombs, Ames, Chesbro, Wood, Leever?

Kathman checked them all from 1871 until 1921.

Rob, I believe you are 0 for 7.

I would exclude the pre 1900 entries (4).

I believe there are 7 others, but one T206er did it twice.

After 1910 there are only two, WaJo and Ruth both in 1916. (note: in 1916 WaJo faced Ruth and Ruth faced Ruth every day in the mirror)

The 1901-1910 group is an interesting mix.

[frankbmd]

Definition of Deadball Era 1901-1920
Therefore 19th century pitchers are excluded.
According to Baseball Reference there are seven,
but Jack Coombs certainly qualifies in 1910. (Sorry Rob, you are 1 for 7)

Ed Killian, 1904 (331.2)
Ed Killian, 1905 (313.1)
Vic Willis, 1906 (322.0)
Jake Weimer, 1906 (304.2)
Rube Vickers, 1908 (317.0)
Jack Coombs, 1910 (353.0
Walter Johnson, 1916 (369.2)
Babe Ruth, 1916 (323.2)

I should probably call my trivia threads "Evolving Trivia", as I never seem to know if my presumed answers are unique (and they usually are not).

I stumbled upon Willis first and found another question related to him that I can't prove, but.......

Take a look at seasonal totals for Vic Willis pitching for Pittsburgh from 1906 to 1909. The similarity of his totals in these four years I find striking in all categories.

Can anyone find a pitcher with four consecutive seasons that are more identical than Vic as a Pirate.

Wins 21-23
Losses 11-13
Games 39-41
IP 289-322
Runs 84-96

to name a few without getting into his FIPs and WHIPs

[trdcrdkid]

Sorry, Frank, I somehow overlooked Coombs in 1910. Together, I think we got them all.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Kathman checked them all from 1871 until 1921.

Rob, I believe you are 0 for 7.

I would exclude the pre 1900 entries (4).

I believe there are 7 others, but one T206er did it twice.

After 1910 there are only two, WaJo and Ruth both in 1916. (note: in 1916 WaJo faced Ruth and Ruth faced Ruth every day in the mirror)

The 1901-1910 group is an interesting mix.

Another example of Frank being Frank