1947 Musial

[dzolot]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-Brea...519861?txnId=0

Technically not be right thread, I know but wanted some quick feedback on this card. Seems to be an early Musial in good condition for not a lot of money. Can anyone provide info on the card, value range if ligit and opinions on if real (or if I literally wasted $30)?

Thank you in advance!

DZ

[abroome]

Originally Posted by dzolot

http://m.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-Brea...519861?txnId=0

Technically not be right thread, I know but wanted some quick feedback on this card. Seems to be an early Musial in good condition for not a lot of money. Can anyone provide info on the card, value range if ligit and opinions on if real (or if I literally wasted $30)?

Thank you in advance!

DZ

Not good

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[dzolot]

Originally Posted by abroome

Not good

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Please explain. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by dzolot

Please explain. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

Genuine ones should have rounded corners (and should be white instead of yellow). See Link for authentic examples.

[abroome]

Search the board for more info like this thread:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=228615

And Old Cardboard also shows authentic rounded corner card:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/d/d305/d...cardsetID=1003


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[Shoebox]

I am always suspect of the square corner versions althougth I have seen threads suggesting their was a square corner set that existed but the color of the card stock on the back looks wrong to me.

[nat]

Can the OP file a "not as described" complaint, since (if the feedback above is correct) it's not a 1947 Bond Bread Musial?

[Paul S]

If you see it in a labeled screw-down, yer gonna get...

[bbcard1]

I think it's somewhere between good and not good depending on how you look at it. It is most likely oldish, just not 1947. These have been around the hobby for decades and sort of have their own place. It is not something like, for instance, a Helmar card that is contrived to look old. That's my opinion anyway. Would have I paid $30 for it? No. If I were a big Musial fan and liked the card, I would not lose any sleep over it.

Of course there is always the possibility based on the poor photo that it's a true fake, but I doubt it. JMO.

[tedzan]

Hey DZ

It's from the "reprint find" of 1980.


Check out this thread, titled...." 1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ? "
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...947+bond+bread


Displayed here are the real ones......



TED Z
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[dzolot]

Thank you all for your insight and feedback. This message board is filled with geniuses/ human almanacs that continue to impress me with their wealth of knowledge. This board and its members are a priceless asset to our community and the hobby that we all love so much!!! Thank you!!

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey DZ

It's from the "reprint find" of 1980.


Check out this thread, titled...." 1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ? "
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...947+bond+bread


Displayed here are the real ones......



TED Z
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Exactly! My personal opinion is that someone found the original plates and ran off quantities of them, as the later square-cornered cards display the correct dot pattern under magnification. Bunches of them surfaced in the '80's and '90's, and PSA, as I recall, is no longer grading '47 Bond Bread at all (except the "Exhibits," which are larger, but actually not from the Chicago Exhibit Supply Co. at all).

Hi, Ted,

Larry

[Leon]

The same printing press theory exists for the Fro Joy cards too. That is why grading companies don't like to grade them, so I have heard.

Originally Posted by ls7plus

Exactly! My personal opinion is that someone found the original plates and ran off quantities of them, as the later square-cornered cards display the correct dot pattern under magnification. Bunches of them surfaced in the '80's and '90's, and PSA, as I recall, is no longer grading '47 Bond Bread at all (except the "Exhibits," which are larger, but actually not from the Chicago Exhibit Supply Co. at all).

Hi, Ted,

Larry