1960-63 Post Jello Mickey Mantle variations

[bnorth]

I know I seen a thread on here about them but could not find it. Could anybody post a link to it or list the 1960-63 Post/Jello Mickey Mantle variations? Thanks in advance.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Hi Ben, was this the thread you were thinking of?

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=191745

[Bestdj777]

Here are the variations I have been able to identify so far:

1960 Post Mantle
1961 Post Mantle Perforated
1961 Post Mantle Hand Cut
1962 Jello Mantle
1962 Post Mantle Hand Cut
1962 Post Mantle Ad Back Hand Cut
1962 Post Mantle Ad Back Perforated
1962 Post Life Magazine – Mantle/Maris Panel
1962 Post Mantle Canadian 163 Hits (first line – “4th time in”)
1962 Post Mantle Canadian 163 Hits (first line – “4th time”)
1962 Post Mantle Canadian 153 Hits Hand Cut
1962 Post Mantle Canadian 153 Hits Perforated
1963 Jello Mantle
1963 Post Mantle

Please note that the only panel I included on this list was the one from the Post Life Magazine. There are other panels out there, but I haven't put together a comprehensive list of those yet (I don't actively pursue those but just get them when I have seen them and if they are decent prices).

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Hi Ben, was this the thread you were thinking of?

http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=191745

Hi Larry, I found that thread. I thought there was a slight difference in the photo cropping on some of the USA cards but was not sure.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Hi Larry, I found that thread. I thought there was a slight difference in the photo cropping on some of the USA cards but was not sure.

Ben, I do not have but one 62 Post Mantle, but, the other week I won a H&S auction of 1000+ 61-63 Post cards and in going through the lot (mainly the 62s), there are numerous (too many to count yet) cropping variations. As I go through an upgrade my 62 set, I am going to add in the cropping variations and can get a count then.

Based on the number of cropping variations I have seen so far with the 62s, it would not be very surprising if the 62 Mantle also has a cropping variation.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Hi Larry, I found that thread. I thought there was a slight difference in the photo cropping on some of the USA cards but was not sure.

Hi Ben,
I made it through the 62s, and indeed there is a cropping variation with the Mantle. Take a look at his left arm in the image...on the bottom card, more of his arm is cropped out while on the top card there is less of his arm cropped. It may not be as obvious in this image, but it is more obvious with the card in hand.

[Econteachert205]

Also much less of the number on the back of the jersey shows on one vs the other

[Bestdj777]

What do the backs look like on those?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

Also much less of the number on the back of the jersey shows on one vs the other

Dennis, I think it appears that way due to the right edge of the bottom card being cut short....however, there does appear to be just a small difference on the L/R placement of the image as well as the more obvious difference with T/B placement.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

What do the backs look like on those?

Chris, the backs of both these Mantle's are plain, as with any of the other box cut cards from the 61-63 Posts, and unlike the backs of the magazine issued cards.

[nolemmings]

I see a few small differences in the 62s, but as I do not collect these, I'm unsure as to whether you would consider them variations.

First, there appears to be a little more space between "No. 5" and his name on one card versus the other. Second, the "y" in Mickey nearly touches the "n" in Yankees on one card, while on the other it does not extend as far and hovers over the "a" instead. Third, "Major League Batting Record" nearly touches the grid in one card but is spaced higher in the other. Fourth and similarly, the numbers within the stats grid are placed differently within the cells. Finally and of course, the blue-sky background is noticeably different in the two cards also.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Chris, the backs of both these Mantle's are plain, as with any of the other box cut cards from the 61-63 Posts, and unlike the backs of the magazine issued cards.

Thanks Saved. Was trying to figure out if they were from different sources. I have a lot of dups so will have to look through for any variations.

[Kenmarks]

There are numerous variations for Mantle 1962 Post Cereal cards. These variations are the direct result of Mantle cards appearing on different panels of different cereals. This is similiar to all years (1961-63) where a player made more than one appearance on a cereal panel. All cards from one cereal panel of a player look the same. Variations occur when two cards come from two different cereal panel backs.

In 1962, Mantle was on the following panels: 11 oz Bran Flakes, 10 oz Grape Nuts, 16 oz Bran Flakes, 10 oz Oat Flakes, 15 oz Oat Flakes, Post Tens variety pack in addition to the Life Magazine Ad. Based on primarily picture cropping or picture color, with the right knowledge you can determine which cereal panel variation a Mantle (or really any other player's) card came from--thus what variation you had. For 1961 Mantle was only on the Post Tens panel and the company mail-in sheet (perforations). In 1963 there are no Mantle variations as he only appeared on the large sized Grape Nut Flakes.

Dan Mabey has done detailed research on Post Cereal baseball issues and published books on each of the different years baseball sets including the 1962 Post Cereal Canadian BB issue. Tons of great information in these books and the vast majority of what most of us serious Post Cereal/Jell-O collectors know about these issues (such as what I am passing along above) comes from Dan's research and writings. If there was a Sports Collector's Hall of Fame, Dan would be in it. I am pretty certain his books are still available, although he has redirected his efforts into other areas somewhat these days.