Any update on (newer) new SGC flip?

[GregMitch34]

Seeing the cards with the now-rejected new flip on eBay this week just verifies how awful that (now-rejected) one is. All you see first is the flip, not the card. Maybe what SGC wrongly wanted. But have they officially released and posted and started actually using the much better Net54-designed flip?

[sebie43]

I was wondering this as well, have some things on hold until Im sure.

[the 'stache]

The new one is distracting, not because it is new, but because it is such a step backwards visually.

I've given this new flip a chance. I look at it every day. I haven't bought any cards with it yet, because quite honestly, it detracts from the overall presentation. It really does. I know some people will be along shortly to call us obsessive, or nuts, but I'm sorry, when I pay for card grading, part of what I'm paying for is the ability to display the card. It's bad enough the flip is so plain looking, but the centering on the flip is off. The first line of information is running into the SGC logo, too. They wanted extra room. Well, now they've got it.

Here's an example. Beautiful card, right?

[the 'stache]

Hmm, oddly enough, that flip has no watermark. Wonder why?

[arc2q]

I recently got some cards back with the new (but soon to be replaced?) SGC flip. It certainly will be improved with the green border enhancement (the new new flip) but, overall, I still think it is better than its predecessor. It is cleaner and distinctive. I do not think it detracts from the appearance of the card/holder.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Hmm, oddly enough, that flip has no watermark. Wonder why?

Maybe because in your rush to criticize you put up the wrong flip?

I love the watermark and think the new flip will look much better with the green border. I would expect it to still be a few to several weeks out based on what they said before. I have some cards on the way back with the first generation of the new flip. They are fine to me but I do understand others not caring for them.

BTW, the Evers that is shown DOES in fact have a watermark, it just can't be seen from the scan.

[packs]

I don't have a problem with the card flip. But I was thrown off by the red autograph flips they're using now. I saw a few in the Sterling auction and had to look a few times to figure out they were SGC.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Seeing the cards with the now-rejected new flip on eBay this week just verifies how awful that (now-rejected) one is. All you see first is the flip, not the card. Maybe what SGC wrongly wanted. But have they officially released and posted and started actually using the much better Net54-designed flip?

I imagine it will take a bit to copyright (or trademark?) the design.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

I imagine it will take a bit to copyright (or trademark?) the design.

Do people expect SGC to NOT use up the on-hand inventory of Border-less flips before launching the newest design?

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Leon

Maybe because in your rush to criticize you put up the wrong flip?

I love the watermark and think the new flip will look much better with the green border. I would expect it to still be a few to several weeks out based on what they said before. I have some cards on the way back with the first generation of the new flip. They are fine to me but I do understand others not caring for them.

Leon, I really wasn't rushing to judgement, but if I gave you, or anybody else that impression, then I sincerely apologize.

When SGC first released the mockup of their new flip, yes, I was unhappy, and I voiced my opinion. I also made a point to thank them when it was announced they were going to revamp the flip based on feedback they received from the members of this forum.

I realize that it's impossible for SGC to make everybody happy. I also realize that even the greatest of companies misstep from time to time (new Coke, Windows 8). But SGC proved their mettle, and my opinion of them, which was already quite favorable, shot up exponentially. So, when I was critical of this first generation, my comments were made with the knowledge that this was just a temporary thing, and that changes for the better were going to come. It appears that I did not communicate that effectively, however, and that is on me.

I agree with you, Leon, that the green border is going to make a big difference. I think will provide some order to the information that is being presented. It also creates some continuity with the prior design, as does the dark green field at the flip's top, with the white SGC lettering.

[The Nasty Nati]

I'm glad someone posted this thread. I was thinking the same thing. I've been seeing all these new SGC flips showing up on ebay. Not a fan, but I am a SGC fan...just patiently waiting for the green border flip to come out before I submit my cards. Does anyone know of a specific time frame when it will happen? Will it in fact happen or was it just SGC saying they'll think about it.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

I'm glad someone posted this thread. I was thinking the same thing. I've been seeing all these new SGC flips showing up on ebay. Not a fan, but I am a SGC fan...just patiently waiting for the green border flip to come out before I submit my cards. Does anyone know of a specific time frame when it will happen? Will it in fact happen or was it just SGC saying they'll think about it.

Let me first state again that I am not a spokesperson whatsoever for SGC. Anything I say is my personal opinion.

I believe the new flips are on order or are in the process. I don't think anyone has an exact date but my guess would be another 2-4 weeks based on what was said previously (that is only a guess). They are definitely doing them with the green border though my understanding is they won't be exactly like the one Joe G did, which to me, is sort of a shame. But the green border is coming, there is no doubt about that from what I was told and what Jeff L. said in his statement for them, not too long ago on this board.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Not this again.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not this again.

This IS a forum, last I checked.....

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

This IS a forum, last I checked.....

Yes but some people are forum and some are "against 'em "

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

Yes but some people are forum and some are "against 'em "

Haha, that's the difference between neurosis, process and progress

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not this again.

LOLOL!!!!!! YES, AGAIN!

I actually think the new flip looks better than the old, why? BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WRITING CLEARLY ON THE FLIP.

[rajah424]

Who cares if you can see all the writing clearly on the flip, it doesn't have a green border.

[glchen]

When I talked to SGC on Thursday, Douglas said approx. 2 more weeks for the replacement flip.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by glchen

When I talked to SGC on Thursday, Douglas said approx. 2 more weeks for the replacement flip.

The world may end if it isn't sooner.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The world may end if it isn't sooner.

Not to worry, Peter. Look who is coming.

[Rollingstone206]

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[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The world may end if it isn't sooner.

Wow - You must be psychotic.........errrr psychic...........