Double Strike Tolstoi Project for mrvster

[t206hound]

Just wanted to share this with everyone. Johnny (mrvster) picked up a double strike Tolstoi in a trade that resembled the Fords in this old thread. The back is littered with magenta from a T68 test run. Note that the magenta run on the back of the card is upside down (in respect to the T206 front).

The card he got was a Gandil slabbed by SGC as A (multi-strike reverse). Here's the back (flipped upside down):



Johnny told me that he couldn't figure out who was on the back, but it was probably a T68 based on the earlier thread. At first I thought maybe there were multiple layers of magenta since the entire back had color, and the previous examples clearly showed the "borders" between cards. But then I jumped out of my T206 box and realized that the size and scale of T68 is different from T206.

Still, nothing immediately jumped out at me, but then I saw what looked like an eye above the S in "Cigarettes." I scanned through the T68 set looking for anyone with a big open eye.

I picked out three, and the one that struck me was Hernando Cortez. The photo Johnny gave me was tilted, so I asked if he had another. He sent me this raw image:



It looked like a match, but I didn't know the actual dimensions of a T68. So I just resized until I got what I thought was a match. I don't have any cool imaging software, but I was able to scale the T206 back and overlay what appears to be a match:



After checking again, I was pretty sure I had a match, so went ahead with the animation which to me looks like this mystery has been solved. Eyes and nose match; brim of hat matches; shoulder matches; "necklace" matches; neck, hair and background over left shoulder all match:

[Pat R]

Great detective work Erick!!!

[wolf441]

Nice work Erick! God, I love threads like these!!!

[MuddyMules]

Nice work. There is DEFINITELY more than one pass through the press on the magenta for the make-ready. Check the dots through a loupe. You should be able to find a small magenta dot in the one of the white areas that will appear more than once. Follow that small dot and this should tell you how many times this sheet went through the press. The dots don't lie.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Erick,

This is very cool. Especially the fact that they printed these sets in the same factory, at the same time, and used a scrap sheet of T206 Tolstoi test print paper to run through the printer for the T68 set. I can just see a stack of T206 test printed sheets laying around in the factory waiting to be used as test sheets for the printers.

Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

AndyH


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[mrvster]

I can NOT BELIEVE you did it~! my friend.....great sleuth work......I AM so Excited right now I could crap my pants

This magenta run and card I am so fortunate to own, and would like to thank the collectors who made this possible(I feel like I won an emmy)

[Piratedogcardshows]

Amazing work Erick.Cool card.

[Tobacco&Gum]

Great work Erick! Congrats JV on the mystery being solved, and on picking up the card! One step closer to Wags!

[mrvster]

he killed it on this one , the hound dawg

Vin.....you've been so helpful along the way, thanks my friend

[CW]

Very cool, Erick! Yet another cool insight into how these cards were printed. Sweet card, Johnny!

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Very cool

[freakhappy]

Well done, team Johnny



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[mrvster]

THANKS GUYS!!
Your all part of team freak

I'm still excited to own, and almost feel like it's a privilege , to have this card...

fits beautiful in " The Circus"...

Huge thanks to all on team Johnny envolved with this project

especially Mike S and Erick, and Hank


Erick, thanks so much again for deciphering that, it was really bothering me! my ocd you have an incredible eye like Tim and Chris and Jimmy.....

just blew the value of it up by that correlation alone....all I can say is WOW Thanks So much

[Runscott]

Erick, that's amazing detective work.

[wolf441]

Another great freak Johnny!! And Erick, that was some great detective work. I can't believe that you were able to put the Gandil together with Cortes. Nice match up, Cortes took down the Aztecs, Gandil took down the White Sox!!

[mrvster]

Thanks my friend! and Cortez brought down Aztecs , Gandil brings down the sox!

[Craig M.]

This thread is very interesting and I would like to keep it alive by posting some pics as they seem to relate to Johnny's card. I do not own any of these.

[Craig M.]

Here's another one: