HOFers First Cards?

[jbhofmann]

I've looked.
I've searched.

I can't find the thread that has all of them. Anyone have the link?

Thanks,
Joel

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

I've looked.
I've searched.

I can't find the thread that has all of them. Anyone have the link?

Thanks,
Joel

http://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/rookies/RookiesList.asp

[jbhofmann]

That's it!

Thanks

[Runscott]

They seem to include postcards as rookie cards.

[CaramelMan]

why is a cabinet called a card?

cabinets are ephemera but they are not baseball cards!

[h2oya311]

I prefer this list of HoF "first" cards...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=128179

[FirstYearCards]

Or visit my site: http://www.firstyearcards.com/ I'm constantly adding first year cards and prior.

[DanP]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I prefer this list of HoF "first" cards...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=128179

There are plenty of photo's, stickers, etc. on this list. As Phil noted, it is a list of each HOF'ers earliest collectible item.

I would use the Old Cardboard Rookie "Card" (should say "Pre-Rookie and Rookie Collectible") list and ignore everything you don't feel that qualifies as a card (i.e. stamps, buttons, stickers, photo's, etc.). I believe every HOF'er has at least one real card listed.

[h2oya311]

My only issue is that the oldcardboard site hasn't been updated in a while and does not include all team pc's. I have at least 5-10 addendums I could make.

But I agree it's a great starting point, w/ Phil's list as a secondary reference. My site (haves plus wants) would get someone pretty far as well.

[novakjr]

Agree with Derek. The OldCardboard list is quite outdated. That list was created by Phil, here is his updated list that was posted on this site..

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=141603

that combined with the "earliest collectibles" link, that Derek posted earlier. Which is another of Phil's lists. Make for great references.

And honestly, I generally scour Derek's image event page quite often as a reference too..

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by FirstYearCards

Or visit my site: http://www.firstyearcards.com/ I'm constantly adding first year cards and prior.

Great effort Bill, but it's missing quite a few. I didn't look at it very closely this time, but did notice that it's still missing managers and I also saw a Negro League player with no link.

Phil's 1st list is also great, but hasn't been updated since 2010. His second list is major league only (I think), and was last updated in 2011. But maybe it's up-to-date - I don't know.

[PolarBear]

I'd be more interested in a list of cards that we're issued during the players major league career, AND is a card depicting him on the team he entered the HOF.

Sorry, but something like a 1946 Newark team photo of Berra has zero interest for me. I don't understand how something like that is more meaningful than a 1948 Bowman card of him with the Yankees for an HOF collector.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I'd be more interested in a list of cards that we're issued during the players major league career, AND is a card depicting him on the team he entered the HOF.

Sorry, but something like a 1946 Newark team photo of Berra has zero interest for me. I don't understand how something like that is more meaningful than a 1948 Bowman card of him with the Yankees for an HOF collector.

I agree on Berra, personally going by the "rookie card" list, you'd technically be looking at the '47 bread releases as a "true rookie". However I've always viewed the Bowman as an "acceptable rookie"...

Some people are interested in the earliest depicted image on ANY type of collectible. For those people that list is awesome. Personally, I generally go by the "true rookie card" list of Phils that I posted earlier(Not the OldCardboard one, but the updated one from net54). Then, depending on the player, I'll use my own judgement as to whether or not to make any adjustments based on my own preferences. Generally, anything that pre-dates what's on that list, I view as pre-rookie, but will obviously fit perfectly into my rookie collection as a rookie, in place of the designated rookie.

I generally don't do the team photo type items, although, I can think of a few that I'd actually prefer over anything else of the player. Rixey(as an example) on the Phillies team Fatima, because it pre-dates his other rookie cards by a few years, and it also adds a different "type" into the mix of my collection..

And a few instances, especially in regards to the executives(morgan bulkeley to be exact), where a non-baseball related postcard significantly pre-dates anything else, in terms of "card-like" items...

Basically, every collector is different. Combining those lists as reference, should get you into the ballpark, and then make your own decisions..