IS Mickey Mantle the Ultimate Exception? O/T

[ullmandds]

I find it interesting that this being a "vintage" baseball card forum...usually when more modern topics are uttered...the author is mildly scolded...and directed to another room...topic and all.

EXCEPT...EXCEPT if the subject matter is Mickey Mantle...let alone the 52 topps Mickey MAntle. Then...all is fine...the topic can stay?!?!

Now my punctuation may seem aggressive...but this really doesn't bother me at all...as I collect cards from this era as well...as I'm sure a lot of us do.

IT's just interesting...that's all!

[Sean]

Peter you're right.

Does it work this way in the post-war forum? Maybe I'll post a Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth and see if I get re-directed here.

[Cardboard Junkie]

As long as we are on the subject......just when does prewar start, (exact date) and end, (exact date)? Are there any cards/sets that were produced during the war? What is/ are the last of the prewar sets..the first of the post war sets?...... And yep the Mick seem to be the exception to posting on the prewar side. Dave.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

As long as we are on the subject......just when does prewar start, (exact date) and end, (exact date)? Are there any cards/sets that were produced during the war? What is/ are the last of the prewar sets..the first of the post war sets?...... And yep the Mick seem to be the exception to posting on the prewar side. Dave.

While I can't answer all of your questions, WWII began, from a U.S.
perspective, on December 7, 1941. In my humble opinion, sets from '41 or earlier qualify. Later sets should not.

As for Mantle, he is definitely post-war.

Just my two cents.

Best Regards,

Eric

[CW]

Now my punctuation may seem aggressive...

Yes, you have very aggressive punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GoldenAge50s]

When it comes to Mickey Mantle, ANY exemption is OK w/ me!

[shammus]

Peter, it's an interesting topic. I think there are a few factors involved -

"Postwar" generally means "Post WWII" as you all know, which in my eyes is anything after say, 1945. Like a previous poster mentioned, a lot of the Mantle topics that come up involve the 1952 Mantle or something involving Mantle from the early 50s. A topic pertaining to the early 50s, I think, is just simply "close enough" to Pre-war that a lot of people look the other way. I've noticed that questions involving 1948 Leaf/Bowman cards, for instance, seem to fall into this category too so it's not just Mantle. It would probably be different though if someone started a thread saying "Hey, I have a question on a '69 Topps Mantle...."

Also, if the contributing poster is a regular board member, we've always allowed those individuals a little leeway when posting.

And finally, if the subject matter at hand consists of a questionable card, or a suspect auction on Ebay - which a good deal of them are, and the general idea behind the post is to warn people of a potentially bad situation, I would say that that sort of a situation is also permissable on the main board. Especially since a good portion of prewar collectors in our community also collect cards from the 40s and 50s, and the card being discussed is likely worth hundreds, if not thousands.

Just my two cents anyways.....

[Tao_Moko]

This came up in an epic Zone topic and I voted at that time that the '52 Topps Mantle is an iconic card in our hobby and transcends era. Discussions of Mantle as a player I would say do not belong on the "prewar" forum, unless he's being compared with a prewar player.

There are days that I might find one topic on the main prewar forum that I want to read and days that I can go through all of them. I would rather read about a '52 Mantle then many of the "OT" threads. The OT threads don't bother me because I can choose to pass them by.

*I think cards 1945 and earlier are acceptable as they are not yet "postwar".

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I find it interesting that this being a "vintage" baseball card forum...usually when more modern topics are uttered...the author is mildly scolded...and directed to another room...topic and all.

EXCEPT...EXCEPT if the subject matter is Mickey Mantle...let alone the 52 topps Mickey MAntle. Then...all is fine...the topic can stay?!?!

Now my punctuation may seem aggressive...but this really doesn't bother me at all...as I collect cards from this era as well...as I'm sure a lot of us do.

IT's just interesting...that's all!

Hey Pete

It all depends on what your definition of "pre-war" is ?

One could stretch it and say the 1952 TOPPS (52T) Mantle is a "pre-war" card....pre-Korean War (June 1950 - July 1953)


Anyhow, the excitement of getting a 52T Mantle started in the Fall of 1952. DiMaggio was gone and Mantle was the new promising star in that spacious Centerfield.
Mickey batted .311 in '52 and had a pretty good rookie season. I always found it quite an interesting coincidence that Topps numbered Mantle's card 311.
One thing is certain, TOPPS knew that Mantle would be popular with the BB card collectors. Therefore, TOPPS Double-Printed his card.

In the late 1970's, a confuence of events raised the interest in the 52T Mantle to a new high. BB card shows were flourishing and Mantle was appearing all over the
country; and, the country-folk fell in love with him. Combine that with the "rookie card craze" in those days.....and, an event in Philadelphia in the Summer of 1980
in which 3 of the 52T Mantle cards were auctioned off together for an unprecedented amount of $10,000. This event made National news....and, the rest is history.

Pete, I'm sure that you know of all this. I posted it for the younger crowd on this forum, who most likely are unaware of it.


The 52T Mantle was Double-Printed and shown here are the differences between the two Mantle cards.


.. Type 2 .................................................. .................................................. Type 1



TED Z

[jcmtiger]

Well, just like some of the younger members of society don't know that the 13 Colonies all were in the East. They probably don't know which War we are talking about.

Joe

[Cardboard Junkie]

posted in wrong thread...sorry dave