Mariner's no-no

[pitchernut]

I guess congratulations is in order to the Mariners for last nights no-no. However, I'm still on the fence regarding multiple pitcher no-no's. Just don't seem the same as when one pitcher accomplishes this feat imo. Maybe there should be a separate category for these kind of no-no's.

[nolemmings]

You're just mad because now you have to go buy 6 new baseball cards instead of 1

[drc]

6 pitchers? That's socialism

I agree that a 6 pitcher no hitter is odd to contemplate. In a way, it's more amazing that a single person no hitter.

[pitchernut]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

You're just mad because now you have to go buy 6 new baseball cards instead of 1

yea but they're those shinny new cheap stuff so no biggie

[prewarsports]

Actually a combined no hitter is MUCH more difficult than a one man version, even rarer than a perfect game. If there should be a seperate category it is the most exclusive category of all Baseball feats that you can reasonably accomplish in the entire game. 6 guys all having to be on their game in one night is unbelievable and instead of taking anything away, it should be looked at as a better feat than something one pitcher at the top of his game can accomplish.

Congrats to the Mariners!

[barrysloate]

Didn't the Astros no-hit the Yankees using five or six pitchers?

[nolemmings]

I must respectfully disagree that a no-hitter from multiple pitchers is more impressive or a greater feat than the standard one hurler no-hitter. It may be rarer, but that's because a starter is almost never pulled while he has a no-no intact. A starter has to show endurance and some guile, as each hitter gets to see him and all of his pitches at least three times. Relievers can simply let it all go for the 3-5 batters they see--batters who have not seen them before and will not see them again--and some relievers can be brought in for purely situational reasons, i.e. pitching purely to their strength for a couple of batters. Frankly no one pitcher really impresses me who can hold a team hitless for just an inning or even two, and having a few who can do it in the same game is not all that breathtaking either, IMHO.

All that being said, I still give props to the Mariners for silencing a hot and potent team.

[HRBAKER]

I agree with the disagreement.
I don't find it remotely as impressive as a one hurler no-hitter.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Didn't the Astros no-hit the Yankees using five or six pitchers?

Yup, they used 6 pitchers in the no-hitter that you mentioned that was pitched on 6/11/2003.

Roy Oswalt, Munro, Saarloos, Lidge, Dotel and Wagner were the pitchers for the Astros. To be honest, I never thought that this feat would be repeated with another 6 pitcher no-hitter.

Definately like catching lighning in a bottle!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drc

6 pitchers? That's socialism

Now individual pitchers will lose incentive to throw their own no-hitters, knowing they can get no-hitter benefits from the harder work of the better pitchers. Sure, we will have fewer wealthy no-hitter pitchers, but the poor middle-relievers will also receive less, and when the middle-reliever class goes, so goes the entire team.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Now individual pitchers will lose incentive to throw their own no-hitters, knowing they can get no-hitter benefits from the harder work of the better pitchers. Sure, we will have fewer wealthy no-hitter pitchers, but the poor middle-relievers will also receive less, and when the middle-reliever class goes, so goes the entire team.

Scott,
?? Say what?
None of these pitchers are underpaid, FWIW.

With specialized pitching it's a miracle that a pitcher even goes "all nine", much less throw a no-hitter.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Scott,
?? Say what?
None of these pitchers are underpaid, FWIW.

With specialized pitching it's a miracle that a pitcher even goes "all nine", much less throw a no-hitter.

I obviously did a very poor job of making a dry joke (I like my jokes extra-dry), relating David's 'socialism' comment to a socialistic society within the framework of baseball. Get it? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (well, I laughed)

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I obviously did a very poor job of making a dry joke (I like my jokes extra-dry), relating David's 'socialism' comment to a socialistic society within the framework of baseball. Get it? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (well, I laughed)

Scott,
That one went right over my head. I'm glad you weren't serious.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Scott,
That one went right over my head. I'm glad you weren't serious.

This year's no-hitter data shows that there's no way I could be serious.

More pitchers took it up a notch and threw no-hitters this year than any year since 1884. This is probably because starting pitchers were inspired by the socialistic no-hitter and realized that by 'producing more', everyone would benefit. Or it could simply be an unexplained burst of capitalistic pitching with those more wealthy in talent attempting to reap more personal benefits, the lesser members of their teams, of course, benefiting as well.