2012 national convention pickups/pictures

[Forever Young]

Anyone pick anything up at the National in Baltimore this year? Any pictures to share?

This is the first day I have been to the show and picked up this Young Hornsby TYPE 1 photo by Charles Conlon(c.1920).

[Forever Young]

DAY 2:

1) 1923 LOU GEHRIG TYPE 1 CHARELS CONLON



2) 1927 LOU GEHRIG TYPE 1 CHARLES CONLON EYES



I am done and off to the dinner!

[PhilNap]

Nice eyes!! Is it part of a jigsaw puzzle?

[khkco4bls]

Here are my bargains of the week at the national. Goldsmith ball from the okland oaks on back and 1929. 25 dollars. My ruth exacta pocket watch which you never see. Only could find one at auction for 1443.00. Paid 150.00 from an old gentleman walking the floor. It was his fathers in perfect working order which i was surprised. Now my other 2 i paid for was a Wm. Read salesman sample baseball in the box. Really cool, and my tin sign from 1900 which matches my cigar box. What are the odds. Made by the tuscarora Advertising Co. coshocton, Ohio. What colors.

[Jcfowler6]

Stuff for the man room.

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by khkco4bls

Here are my bargains of the week at the national. Goldsmith ball from the okland oaks on back and 1929. 25 dollars. My ruth exacta pocket watch which you never see. Only could find one at auction for 1443.00. Paid 150.00 from an old gentleman walking the floor. It was his fathers in perfect working order which i was surprised. Now my other 2 i paid for was a Wm. Read salesman sample baseball in the box. Really cool, and my tin sign from 1900 which matches my cigar box. What are the odds. Made by the tuscarora Advertising Co. coshocton, Ohio. What colors.

Nice items! Excellent prices as well. I'm loving that salesman sample baseball the most. That's really cool!!

[Vintagecatcher]

I just got back from the National. I went just for Thursday and Friday.

I thought the memorabilia side of the show was a bit lean. Of course, some of the better items were probably grabbed earlier in the show.

My lone memorabilia pickup was a nice children's catcher mitt.

Patrick

[jpop43]

We ventured down to the show for the Wednesday evening session and stayed thru Friday afternoon. For the very first time ever I took my 4 year old son to a show and he was a real trooper, keeping up with us as we walked the aisles over and over till we were convinced that we'd had the opportunity to see everything. Attached is a picture of the Dugout Treasures crew along with our newest member...the little guy picked up his first vintage glove on Thursday!

I thought the sampling of vintage equipment being offered was quite good, and seeing it allowed us to visit with some old friends who specialize in that area. We got a nice chance to catch up in person and even meet some guys with whom we'd spoken/emailed with over the years but never formally connected. Kudos to the guys from Play OK Antiques, Huntington Baseball Co., and the Antique Athlete for putting together what was, in our opinion, the best booth in show!

Anyway, we had a great time in the Inner Harbor and did pick up a few nice pieces which fill a couple of holes in our collection of vintage gloves, bats, and balls.

Starting with the baseballs, here is our National 2012 haul...

1. Well, us...photo taken in the booth shared by a number of our friends.
2. Circa 1920's Horace Partridge Official League Baseball, mint with box.
3. Teens/20's era Spalding Official League Special Baseball...Mint.
4. 1920's era Reach "Babe" Ruth Home Run Special Baseball
5. Circa 1880's Figure 8 Baseball

www.dugouttreasures.com

[jpop43]

Here are a couple of the bats...

1. Circa 1897-1911 JF Hillerich & Son bat...thick, stout, and heavy with very nice orig. factory tape...no damage and a nice addition to the bat collection.

2. 36" Louisville Slugger, Oil Tempered, Model 3 baseball bat.

www.dugouttreasures.com

[jpop43]

And, last but not least...the leather. Here are the mitts we picked up over the past few days.

1. Circa 1920's Spalding "Double Play" model basemitt...large, soft, supple, buckle back, nice patch, with great markings.

2. 1920's era Winchester Repeating Arms Co. catchers mitt. At long last, we pick up the "right fit" in terms of catchers mitts to round out our Winchester collection.

A great week spent with family at a great show in a great town!

www.dugouttreasures.com

[khkco4bls]

Jonathan, I was going to spring on the Ruth homerun special ball but didn't want to spend most of my money on one item. Killer ball .

[matty39]

federal league pennant

[jpop43]

Hey Kevin...thanks. Well, we were thinkin' about that Wm. Read and Sons ball too...funny, right! Anyway, we admire your purchase and would love to see a few more pics of the ball itself. If you're ever in a mood/position to part with it, please drop us a line. Great show for you!

www.dugouttreasures.com

[khkco4bls]

Thanks Jonathan, I will keep you in omind and also the Japanese ball I have. Great pickups...t

[Mark]

Originally Posted by matty39

federal league pennant

nice.

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

DAY 2:

1) 1924 LOU GEHRIG TYPE 1 CHARELS CONLON



2) 1927 LOU GEHRIG TYPE 1 CHARLES CONLON EYES



I am done and off to the dinner!

Well Ben. Welcome to the "Eyes" Club! What an incredible pair of Conlon/Gehrigs you picked up... in the SAME DAY no less!

BTW... Where are all the photos? For the last few years there were loads of photos that fellow board members picked up from the John Rogers collection! What gives guys?

[canjond]

My only purchase... Of the 8 known copies, this is probably the nicest...

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by canjond

My only purchase... Of the 8 known copies, this is probably the nicest...

I saw this.. It is even better in person. Congrats!

[scooter729]

This 1915 pennant just made the 500 mile journey back to its new residence in the hub of Boston - welcome home...

[MGHPro]

Awesome stuff guys. I really never had time to really walk the show, so I didn't see most of the stuff on the floor. I did pick up a few things and will post some pictures when I get unpacked.

[HRBAKER]

..........and an Eddie Collins Decal 12" mini-bat



Danny Murphy (luv the sweater)



Rube Oldring (die cut parallel)

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by canjond

My only purchase... Of the 8 known copies, this is probably the nicest...

Jon, I have one of those, unfortunately it is not signed..Joe

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by scooter729

This 1915 pennant just made the 500 mile journey back to its new residence in the hub of Boston - welcome home...

Scott

Nice pick-up. (I have one, but it hung for 80 years in a Nova Scotia cabin, so a little worse for the wear). How did you confirm it to 1915 as the year?

Thanks,

Max

[canjond]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

Jon, I have one of those, unfortunately it is not signed..Joe

Joe-

I had no idea there were ones that were unsigned. I know Cobb produced these for his family and friends, so had always assumed all were signed.

- Jon

[David Atkatz]

Jon, why do you think these were produced by Cobb? I wouldn't think that even Cobb would refer to himself as "The Word's Greatest Ball Player."

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by baseballart

Scott

Nice pick-up. (I have one, but it hung for 80 years in a Nova Scotia cabin, so a little worse for the wear). How did you confirm it to 1915 as the year?

Thanks,

Max

Thanks Max - the 1915 isn't 100% certain but I believe that logo has been used on other items which are specifically dated to 1915. So I could say it's from the 1910s but I think 1915 is generally believed to be most likely on this one.

And I'm sure even yours looks great - how can a 100 year old pennant be anything else?!

[canjond]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Jon, why do you think these were produced by Cobb? I wouldn't think that even Cobb would refer to himself as "The Word's Greatest Ball Player."

David-

The info actually came from Rob Lifson, although I'm not sure the genesis of the theory. According to REA, "These exceedingly rare photographic displays were produced in the 1920s by Ty Cobb himself for use as special presentation gifts to friends. (The fact that they were only given to Cobb's friends may, all by itself, explain their great rarity.). . . The cover of the folder reads “Souvenir Photos of Ty Cobb – The World’s Greatest Ball Player” (modesty was never Cobb’s strong suit)."

- Jon

[Scott Garner]

Here are mine:

1) Bob Feller different unusual membership cards from his personal estate
Bonus points for the original return envelope with postmark and 1938 stamp. Right up my collecting alley. My personal favorite is the light blue North Carolina Sherrif's Association card (get out of jail free card?) signed on the back by no-hit pitchers Bob Feller and Ernie Shore (threw a combined unofficial perfect game with Babe Ruth in 1917). Sweet!

2) Johnny Vander Meer fan autograph letter request including autographs of the double no-hit battery of Vander Meer and HOF Ernie Lombardi. Interestingly enough, VanderMeer faked the signatures of both Lombardi and Ival Goodman. What a giver!

3) Carl Hubbell vintage signed original snapshot circa 1920's. Thanks to net54 member Hank Thomas for this one. It was great seeing you Hank!


Bob Feller estate memberdship cards -front.jpg

Bob Feller estate menbership cards- back.jpg

Johnny Vander Meer 1938 autograph request and original envelope.jpg

Johnny Vander Meer 1938 autograph request and Vandy- Lombardi sigs.jpg

Carl Hubbell circa 1920's signed snapshot.jpg

It was great seeing many of you at the net54 dinner on Friday. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did...

[sox1903wschamp]

Way to go Scott. Nice Sox Pennant! I am also not sure on the year. I have heard 15 or 18. One of these days, we'll pin it down. Congrats.

[pow323]

I picked up this little neat item! Had a great time!!

[bcbgcbrcb]

Scott:

Great pick-up on the early auto Hubbell photo, I thought about picking up that one from Hank as well.

[HexsHeroes]

bump

[Jantz]

HRBAKER/Jeff

I looked at both of those photos early Wednesday afternoon and passed on them.

I did pick up something else nice from Keith though.

Glad you got the photos


Jantz

[jpop43]

We took home some nice pieces for the collection that I pictured and posted here earlier in the thread. However, I have been told by my son that I was remiss in not posting his acquisitions, and he's just a bit too cute to deny. So, for those interested, here is what a 4 year old boy who absolutely loves baseball picked up at his very first show, the 2012 National.

For those that can do so, I highly encourage you to get your kids involved in collecting as its something that you can do together for, well, pretty much the rest of your lives. I've been doing this with my Dad and brother for nearly 25 years now and look forward to what I hope is a lifetime of continued excursions, finds, and memories with my kids.

www.dugouttreasures.com
http://www.dugouttreasures.com/book.cfm

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Scott:

Great pick-up on the early auto Hubbell photo, I thought about picking up that one from Hank as well.

Thanks Phil! Hank sure is a nice guy, eh?

[Hankphenom]

Aw shucks, guys. I'd had that Hubbell for several shows and for most of the National. I picked it up cheap and had it priced to sell, an original photo of a young Carl with a gorgeous sig. Figured it would fly off the table, but it waited there long enough for Scott to find it. And it took the dedication to make to our end-of-the-world setup in the room, or I should say "sort of" in the room. There've been several posts about what a wasteland the room with the autograph pavilion was, all supplies and shiny stuff. I'd walk up into the main building to see tremendous crowds (I thought attendance was terrific all week) around the tables, then come back to where Keating and I were set up and it looked like a leper colony. Here he's got the best autograph material at the show and I've got a table full of old interesting stuff, and not a single one of the numerous auction houses and few dealers and collectors ever even made it by to look at what we had. After several frustating days like that, I more or less gave up and loaded up a famous eBay seller with tons of my best stuff--this with half the show left to go. I've never done that before. I ended up having a great show in the end, but only because several of those intrepid collectors who did make it got to discover my "private stock" of smaller Johnson estate photos, some of which Beckett had beautifully slabbed, and made some deals that made it worthwhile being there. Otherwise, it was a frustrating experience being in that part of the universe "where no man has gone before." I've learned the hard way what it means to be in the "smaller room" at a show, but I thought, wrongly as it turned out, that most people taking the trouble to go to a National would at least check out the whole thing while they were there. Having vented about all that, however, it was still wonderful--never been to a National that wasn't. Picked up some fabulous items like this spectacular 1924 World Series ticket strip, had many great encounters with other collectors, put some money in my pocket, and just had a great time all week long.

[CarltonHendricks]

I didn't make it to the National this year but my friend Ryan Sims was kind enough to call me from from the National and told me about four items he thought were up my alley...sure enough I bought three of them by phone and text. See below...You're seeing the same fuzzy cell phone photos I had to go on...When I receive them in hand I'll try to post better shots.


A c1920 silver plate bicycle plaque commissioned by the Canada Cycle and Motor Company. I like the beaver at the top. Got from Herbert Thomas the third.




Next was a c1885 Harvard Athletic Association short bill cap with the best silk makers label I've ever seen in a college cap....from the James Brine company in Cambridge. Got it from our own Keith Javic (KJvaic) of www.antiquesportsshop.com. The AHA would normally not be enough to prove it was a Harvard cap since it's not maroon...but the label puts that to rest!


I didn't have an example of this cap so it was a good find. My bud John Gennantonio says this type cap was used for various sports including baseball. I'll have to research it further once I get it but I did find a reference of a Blossom who boxed at Harvard. Above is a shot of an 1893 Harvard baseball player wearing the same style cap


Last was this framed c1900, 21" x 11" trolley car sign for Omega Oil that features a track runner in starting position....Never seen it before..Ryan got the trophy....got it from our own Brett Lowman of www.playokantiques.com As I pondered all the pieces trying to decide which ones to pull the trigger on, Ryan advised this sign would probably be around a while....code for get the cap and plaque first before they're gone...But once I got those handled I concluded that if I spotted the Omega sign at an antiques show I'd probably be all over it. A track related advertising sign from the turn of the century is very rare. Ryan said it's killer and I have a feeling I'll really like it once I see it in person..

[Bill Rayburn]

Carlton...we missed you this year. Even though you were not there, you still came away with the goodies. With a "picker" like Ryan you can't miss.

[sayhey24]

Those are all great items Carlton -- what a haul!
What was the fourth item that you passed on?


Greg

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by sayhey24

Those are all great items Carlton -- what a haul!
What was the fourth item that you passed on?


Greg

Bill, Thanks for the kind words...I'd have certainly liked to have been there...I don't like missing all the fun. I've just had such a stellar year finding stuff I couldn't pass on...that I never got it together and saved enough moola to go. Take the 1906 Olympics panorama above for instance. I had a chance to buy it what could I do...go..oh I gotta save for the National...no, you gotta buy it while you have the chance...And you just can't go all that way and spend all that money to get there to buy a couple things...you have to bring serious fire power. It's $1,200.00 just to walk in the door for me considering airfare, hotel, car rental, etc. Now if I had a sponsor to do a story!!!....But I've just never had the time and energy to seriously pitch for one.

SayHey,
It was a large statue of a European football/rugby player that Herbert Thomas the Third had. I liked the large melon ball and it seemed pretty nice overall but I've got other similar pieces already...I have one kind of the same genera of three players going for it trying to catch a pass....see Herbert's below..He may still have it as I he said as much he didn't have a good booth location...maybe it didn't get enough exposure and didn't sell.

[jt39]

I saw that statute -- very cool. I don't collect outside of baseball, but as a former rugby player I was seriously considering buying it just to put up in my office. I did, however, buy one of the bats on the rack beyond that photo, as I've been looking for something decorative and it had great, bold stamping and interesting repairs.

Actually, I was meaning to ask on here about one of the repairs to the bat -- it's actually the reason I bought it, because I've never seen one like it (not that I'm an authority on the topic). It is a copper sheath, about 3.5 inches in length, secured by a row of small nails, and is located about 6 inches from the knob. Anyone ever seen such a repair? Was it common? The bat is circa 1920 from what I gather.

Had a great time at my first ever trip to Nationals!

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by jt39

I saw that statute -- very cool. I don't collect outside of baseball, but as a former rugby player I was seriously considering buying it just to put up in my office. I did, however, buy one of the bats on the rack beyond that photo, as I've been looking for something decorative and it had great, bold stamping and interesting repairs.

Actually, I was meaning to ask on here about one of the repairs to the bat -- it's actually the reason I bought it, because I've never seen one like it (not that I'm an authority on the topic). It is a copper sheath, about 3.5 inches in length, secured by a row of small nails, and is located about 6 inches from the knob. Anyone ever seen such a repair? Was it common? The bat is circa 1920 from what I gather.

Had a great time at my first ever trip to Nationals!

How much was the statue by the way?...Herbert and I never did get to the price

[sayhey24]

Wow -- looks like Herbert had a great booth!

Greg

[MGHPro]

The statue was consigned to Hunt auctions. Its very impressive in person.

[jt39]

I can't recall precisely, but I'm not a big-budget collector and wasn't shocked enough not to at least run the idea of owning it through my head. Maybe $700? Of course, I have no idea of the market for those kinds of items.

[Vintage Yankee]

Finally got around to scanning, so here goes. Nothing outrageous, but a few neat little pickups:

1910 NYC Theatre rag with upcoming schedule of all 3 NY teams on cover


A few press photos (only 2 from the Rogers Archives)
Circa 1918 with WWI armbands



Yankees pitchers heating up


Couldn't resist this one with the look on Whitey's son's face - 1955


Martin arguing, hardly uncommon; but I couldn't resist the bicentennial caps


New but a throwback - game used from the Sox/Yanks 1912 Fenway 100th anniversay game


One of my best pickups - Goldsmith sample scorecard - scan doesn't do the color justice



Frame from Morgan Bulkeley's BBHOF plaque - definitely an unexpected find

[Jay Wolt]

RJ, love that Bulkeley HOF cabinet. Never saw one of those offered before.
Are you planning to replicate his HOF plaque to put in there?

[Exhibitman]

Jeff, I saw that Collins mini-bat the 1st day but passed on it, then changed my mind and spent the rest of the show looking for it again. Very nice p/u. Some stuff 4 me:








[Gabby Hartnett, in case anyone wondered]

[Vintage Yankee]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

RJ, love that Bulkeley HOF cabinet. Never saw one of those offered before.
Are you planning to replicate his HOF plaque to put in there?

Thanks much, Jay. If I can find a digital image of high enough quality to enlarge to the proper size I'd like to, but as a Yankees fan I may have to put a Ruth in there instead.

[CarltonHendricks]

Vintage Yankee/R.J. Hinners
Like your Goldsmith sample scorecard and especially the Morgan Bulkeley's BBHOF plaque frame...How does one of those surface...did the Hall remodel??

Exhibitman/Adam W@rsh@w
Like the Sugar Ray Robinson Photo..



The c1885 Harvard sports cap I got by phone from Keith Javic at the National arrived today. As mentioned all I had to go on was fuzzy cell phone photos. I was a little nervous how it would look once in hand but I'm very pleased...Above is a shot of it in action in my baseball case..As I waited for it to come I had been trying to figure how I was going to fit it in as there aren't a lot of options!....But as soon as I slid open the glass door it just flew right out of my hand and landed on the shoes..and I thought I heard "Right here"...









Actually I'm taken by how good condition it's in...when you find these 19th century antique fabric items they come in all conditions...subject to an array of horrors that can affect them...stains, tears, moth holes, etc...and that's if they aren't thrown away somewhere along the timeline...

I believe the name written on the label "Blossom" may refer to a E.L. Blossom, who I found reference to as a Harvard class of 1888 member. One reference provided he boxed in an indoor winter athletic meet as a light weight boxer...and I did learn the Harvard Athletic Association was formed in 1874 primarily functioning to organize track, gymnastics and boxing at Harvard.



http://www.brinesports.com/aboutus.asp
Did you know the Brine Company is still around...oldest sporting goods store in the country....link above...Interesting they had six locations early on and they were all independent of each other...hmm!?!

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