Possible variation T205 Nee Printers mark on card vs No printers mark

I just won this and was wanting the opinion of the great elders as to wether or not this was a printers mark. Since this is a T205 I am sure it adds NO value to the card. All sarcasm aside I was just looking for some opinions from the gys here as to what they think.

Does this Add any value?

Is it a Printers mark?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[iggyman]

Andrew,

Glad to see you back in the game! Hopefully, it is permanent, your enthusiasm for T205's were missed around here. To answer your question, I have yet to reach the status of elder, but that definitely looks like a printers mark to me. Neat card and the mark does add a little value to the card. At least, if I would have seen it; I would have added a slight premium to my snipe.

Lovely Day...

[ChiefBenderForever]

Great pose, awesome sky background on this card haven't seen this one before very cool.

Glad to be back. Was having some serious withdraws there. Hope to keep chuggin along

[irishdenny]

i agree! Most humbly.... This iS a Printers Proof Card, I've had many of them, mostly sold now though. i would Love to see a scan of the Back.(Please, if possible?)
This is what i would do if the card were mine, i would Not fear a regrade at all(i mention this because of the older PSA slab, ie rounded frame). Sending it to SGC for their Slabbed oinion is the Real Deal Ticket to authenication.

just my 2 pennies worth

Oh yeah, also, you might want to magnify the the Proof line to see what if any other colors can be seen(sometimes not with the naked eye).

"Sweet Card!!!"

[ullmandds]

printer's proof card? nothing personal...but u guys are whacked! this is merely a printers mark used to line up the plates...this is not a proof!

You guys can fight over what premium this card should carry...in my opinion...none...it's just a nice t205...definitely NOT a proof of any kind?!

[tedzan]

Here's a scan of my Nee and Merritt cards. There is a hint of a printer's mark on both of these two cards. I looked at the 12 - T206 Minor League
cards in my set and some have this mark, while others do not. I would say that these marks are not anything unusual.


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TED Z

Originally Posted by tedzan

Here's a scan of my Nee and Merritt cards. There is a hint of a printer's mark on both of these two cards. I looked at the 12 - T206 Minor League
cards in my set and some have this mark, while others do not. I would say that these marks are not anything unusual.


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TED Z

Ted would this not qualify the Minor league cards as a variation? Since we have both cards with and without marks. I cant see the Nee mark but looks like the Merrit come in on the ornate bat. Now since we have some with and some without and can be found with both with the mark being the lesser of them this qualifys them to be a new variation right?????????? I mean thats the rule for 206's. Not trying to bust anyones nutz here but rules that are good for one seem to be bad for others.

[ullmandds]

I don't know, pup...with logic like that any off centeredness or registration issues would constitute a variation too...wouldn't it?

I understand where your debate is stemming from...and I sympathize. I don't consider these things variations in any way...and some T206 hunters are just looking for a payday...nothing more!

[steve B]

Exactly, interesting printers mark, but not a variation. It will be there on every sheet. A sheet cut a bit off center the other way will show the mark on the card below. The mark is more of a cutting guideline, and will be cut in half on a perfectly centered card.

What's interesting is that the card below wasn't Nee. The yellow line below the mark would be the border that's under the gold of most other t205s.

Now, find a t205 that has that mark, and a white strip at the top (or bottom, the cards could have been aid out bottom to bottom. ) And you've got part of the sheet layout for that sheet. And that would be very cool.

Steve B

[tedzan]

Andrew

Here are my Batch and Dunn....no hint of printer's marks.

Regarding Nee....most of his cards have the same printer's mark. But, here is one currently on ebay that does not......
http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-T205-Hassan...-/160360451936







I agree with Peter....in the bigger picture of T205's, with or without these printer's alignment marks, it's no big deal.

Incidently Peter, as a long-time Yankees fan, I sympathize with you. But, it's tough to beat Pettitte in October. He has an impressive post-season
record. Anyhow, I'm rooting for the Phillies this year. Or the Rangers, since I'm a fan of Cliff Lee.



TED Z

[T206Collector]

While I can appreciate why T205 fans are envious of all the T206 attention, I have to say that even if that mark showed up on a T206 border it would not be worth much either. Nor would it be considered a "variation." There are all sorts of mysterious lines in the borders, front and back, of plenty of T206 cards.

[canjond]

Ted, et al. This might not be the correct thread to bring this up in, but since we are talking about printing in terms of T205s, it's somewhat appropriate. I know the board has hashed out in the past the possible sheet arrangements for T205s and T206s. However, the theories never discuss the possibility that cards were printed both horizontally and vertically on the same sheet. We know for a fact that both Obaks, and T207s were arranged both horrizontally and vertically on a single sheet. Why can't the same be true for T205s and T206s?

[steve B]

The one on Ebay might have the mark, but it may be scuffed removing the mark. I see a bit of the right end of the mark, the rest is tough to tell from the scan.

The Ebay one does have a couple other interesting things besides maybe not having the mark. The line in the sky is one, may be a print streak, may be a plate scratch. In the left border there's a light line roughly along the line between cards. The tiny bit of the card showing at the left is also a Newark frame.

Steve B