Is this card really Rare

[Bigb13]

How rare are these kinds of cards? Rob http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[Bicem]

not easy, but not super rare either.

[Leon]

They are much tougher than most caramel sets. Think of how many we see for sale? Not really a whole relatively speaking....They are on paper thin stock and usually found in very low condition. A 3 like this one is actually quite high grade. (everyone's least favorite one too boot ) regards

[benchod]

But what are they and why are they still labeled "proofs"?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by benchod

But what are they and why are they still labeled "proofs"?

Maybe a subsidiary of E97, an "E97-2" ? My thinking is that they are probably just another caramel set. I could be wrong but that is as good of a guess as any I have heard.

They shouldn't be labeled as proofs (in the truest sense) and it's a mistake, with what we know today, to call them that. Again, all just my opinion.

[ethicsprof]

nice card, Leon.
the one pictured initiallyABOVE that's graded A seems like quite a good deal at a wee bit less than a hundred.
i seldom see these cards and would love to have one for my type collection for a wee bit less than a hundred.
imho they're not rare but pretty close to it.

best,
barry

[FUBAR]

that psa holder looks terrible.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Leon

...My thinking is that they are probably just another caramel set...

Are they Briggs Co? How was the distribution determined on this issue?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

Are they Briggs Co? How was the distribution determined on this issue?

They could be Briggs Co but this is still a mystery in the hobby. We don't know how these were issued either but it would seem they were in some kind of hard packaging as they are paper thin.

[benchod]

Nice related items ,Leon.
Does every E97 color card have a known b&W counter part?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by benchod

Does every E97 color card have a known b&W counter part?

yes...