How Do You Classify A Hand Cut Strip Card as Trimmed?

[Buythatcard]

This has baffled me for awhile. If a strip card is hand cut. How does one determine whether the card was later trimmed or whether it just looks that way from the original cutting?

[scooter729]

Usually the standard (as far as I have seen it used) is if the full original border is visible, it can get a numerical grade. If it's cut inside of that border, then it would just get Authentic.

The Post cards circa '61-'62 are good examples of this. There is a black border along the cards, and if this black border is visible all around the card, you can get a number. No black all around, then "A" is your grade.

[martyogelvie]

Did all strip cards have some kind of border??

[Leon]

Originally Posted by martyogelvie

Did all strip cards have some kind of border??

True strip cards will have a border, as they were meant to be cut around it. There are quite a few things we consider strip cards that came from boxes, ads, posters etc.....those will sometimes not have borders and then it's the amount of "border" (the area surrounding the card) that gets taken into account, whether the card will get a # or an "AUT". Also, as far as the timing of the cut....I have been told by the graders that it could be cut 30 minutes ago, or 100 yrs ago, they see it the same way. For the thousandth time, my view is that ALL strip cards should get a "handcut" qualifier. If they are given that qualifier I don't mind the numerical grade. If they aren't, then I don't think a numerical grade should be given. That's always been my view and still is.....Others have their own point of view which is great too....regards

[Exhibitman]

Not all strips had borders. W590, for example. My view is grade them all, taking into account the relative sizes and configurations of the strips. If they have borders by all means use those as the minimum sizing. I think writing "handcut" and giving a grade is silly--of course it is handcut--unless the strip is known with a factory cut.

[wake.up.the.echoes]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Not all strips had borders. W590, for example. My view is grade them all, taking into account the relative sizes and configurations of the strips. If they have borders by all means use those as the minimum sizing. I think writing "handcut" and giving a grade is silly--of course it is handcut--unless the strip is known with a factory cut.

+1

I am having fun putting together the w580 boxing set. From my limited understanding, there are two different versions of each card from this set. One is the standard strip card variety, and the other was produced in Thailand and was printed on different stock, and was issued as individual cards, rather than in strips. (Adam would know way more about this than me.) I am not sure if there is a distinction made on the label between the two.

Fun set to put together though. Of course, no one knows what comprises the exact checklist for these cards. PSA lists 52 cards in the set, but I have put together a list of 59. I have a couple in RAW condition that PSA doesn't list on their registry.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Not all strips had borders. W590, for example. My view is grade them all, taking into account the relative sizes and configurations of the strips. If they have borders by all means use those as the minimum sizing. I think writing "handcut" and giving a grade is silly--of course it is handcut--unless the strip is known with a factory cut.

Hi Adam
So you are telling me that if this strip is cut the cards won't have borders? They might not have dotted lines but they will definitely have borders. And no, to me, the qualifier is NOT silly, it's imperative. If not then you have people that don't know a strip from a Stassberg (sp?) thinking they were manufactured the same way, with the 100 yrs old strip cards potentially getting very high grades WITHOUT it being known they were handcut, after the fact, which is very silly indeed. We all know about strip cards but the shiny collectors might not. regards