1935 Circa Toledo Mud Hens photo card

[Leon]

Just picked this up off of a gentleman who always seems to have odd items. This is currently known as an uncataloged Circa 1935 Toledo Mud Hens Issue....Anyone, besides Frank W , ever see any others?

[Bob Lemke]

. . . and he was only 37 in 1935.

[FrankWakefield]

I've not seen one of those. And that's a nice card, there, Leon.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

I've not seen one of those. And that's a nice card, there, Leon.

Thanks Frank. I really enjoy talking about esoteric cards, and pre-war cards, in general. I understand there is one more known from this "set".

Sometimes I think there should be a category we call "photo-cards" as I think that would be the correct one for "cards" like these. I can think of several others like this, similar to pictures, also. best regards

[judsonhamlin]

Originally Posted by Bob Lemke

. . . and he was only 37 in 1935.

Living in Toledo can do that to a man

[fkw]

Maybe with the Mgr card now we can get closer to the date of issue....

I believe I came up with the year (ca.1935) by averaging out the years Powers played for them.

Here is the only one Ive seen beside Leon's.
Dont own it anymore...

1.5" by 2.1" real photo

[fkw]

Looks like the years will be closer to 1936-37. Haney started Managing in 1936 (some sources say 1935) and Powers last season with them was 1937.

[teetwoohsix]

I found a 1966 Toledo Mud Hens Team Issue in the Beckett Almanac,says it's a 25 card set,cards measure approximately 3 3/16" by 5" and features borderless black-and-white player photos.The backs are blank and unnumbered.I know your card is a 1935,but the description of the 1966 seems similar,doesn't it?By the way Leon,nice find!!

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Would any of you speculate that this may have been some sort of team-issued "photo pack"? The lack of corporate sponsorship would be indicative of this.

Not being a card collector, it has never failed to surprise me that these types of "sets"/types are collected in the same fashion as actual cards (although to a lesser extent, I assume). If I had ever been a type collector, I would have immediately labelled such issues as decidedly being on the memorabilia end of the spectrum. Therefore, they would be immediately rendered inconsequential to the completion of my collection. I assume it's all a matter of personal preference?

[fkw]

Too small to be a photo pack (1.5" by 2.1" for the Powers card, Leons is slightly bigger).

I call these "Album Cards", similar to the many Cuban Issues of the 40's and also things like this...


1940 UO-Unc. Associated Stations (gasoline station) SF Seals (1.75" by 2.4")
These were collected then glued into an album provided by the gas station

[glenv]

I have two. Picked up the Powers from Frank not too long ago. This one I've had for a while:

mudhen2.jpg

[Leon]

Originally Posted by JBirkholm

Would any of you speculate that this may have been some sort of team-issued "photo pack"? The lack of corporate sponsorship would be indicative of this.

Not being a card collector, it has never failed to surprise me that these types of "sets"/types are collected in the same fashion as actual cards (although to a lesser extent, I assume). If I had ever been a type collector, I would have immediately labelled such issues as decidedly being on the memorabilia end of the spectrum. Therefore, they would be immediately rendered inconsequential to the completion of my collection. I assume it's all a matter of personal preference?

Hi Jodi
It is exactly like you said, all a matter of preference. I speak from the perspective of being a (mostly) type card collector. I also accept the fact that some people don't feel it's even a legitimate way to collect. That is certainly their prerogative to feel that way. I don't begrudge anyone their opinion as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

For me, I need to have something more than "an" ACC (American Card Catalog) focus, though that is 1 of the 2 foci . If I didn't do it that way I would run out of stuff to collect, for the most part. How fun is that? So I have a strict ACC focus and I have a 2nd method that is unfocused, which is where this "photo-card" falls. BTW, I think the "what is a card" debate is always fascinating . Hope this helps explain where I am coming from. Happy Collecting.

edited to add - THANKS GLEN- for posting the scan of the other card. That's 3....and thanks FKW for chiming in, as always.