Monday Nite TRIVIA quiz......CHICAGO

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

The National is back in Chicago this Summer......and, that is great.

What is even greater about Chi-town, is the music of the Jazz-Rock group that originated in Chicago.
The CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITY (CTA) 1st released their album in the Spring of 1969. Most people
remember this fabulous band as "CHICAGO".

CTA's album signature Song was...."Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is ?"

1st quiz....Why did CTA change their band's name to "CHICAGO" ?

2nd quiz....What is the real meaning of the CHICAGO's album signature Song...."25 Or 6 To 4" ? ?


T-Rex TED

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

1. They were sued by the actual Chicago Transit Authority.

2. The way I hear it is that it is about somebody "burning the candle at both ends" (as in "trying hard to stay awake", etc.). The title should almost read "25 (or 26) Mintues to 4:00 A.M."

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Posted By: Martin Neal

I used to know the answer to quiz #1 until I "experienced" the answer to quiz #2

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Posted By: daryle

I have idea as to the answers but that album is great. I collect albums/records and have the 1st 5 Chicago albums. Totally different sound from the familiar sound they had the late 70s and 80s......


OH.......matter of fact............I'm spinning Gordon Lightfoot's album called "Gord's Gold" as I type this.............Great

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Yes, a totally different sound. Much better than the "wimpy" Peter Cetera stuff. It reminds me of what happened to Genesis after Peter Gabriel left and Fidgety Phil Collins took over the helm.

Ted, if you like Chicago, you must also be a fan of Lighthouse. Much along the same lines as BS&T and Chicago, but, imho, more talented. They were a Canadian group that were around during the same wonderful period in music. Their drummer lives in my hometown. Unfortunately, Chicago lost Terry Kath to a game of Russian roulette and Lighthouse lost their talented lead singer Bob McBride to an extensive heroin addiction.


Daryle,

Lightfoot is the best songwriter in the history of mankind--Bob Dylan himself said so! I've been a fan of his ever since I was old enough to figure out how to drop a needle onto a 33.

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Posted By: daryle

Jodi, I would agree with Dylan. Lightfoot is great. I just bought 4 Lightfoot albums Sunday. I can just see Gordon and Croce sitting together...........wouldn't that be amazing?

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Actually, Croce got his big break through Gord's bassist John Stockfish! Small world, and I love Croce nearly as much as Gord. Neil Young and Joni Mitchell are also at the top of my list.

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Posted By: Rich Klein

Buckinghams

There is a great email sent out by an oldies fan in Chicago (totally free and no obligations -- I've been recieving the newsletter for 2 years now). If anyone is interested in getting on this mailing list, please email me at Sabrgeek@aol.com and I'll forward the email address to get on that mailing list

Regards
Rich

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Granted, the Buckinghams have been around forver, but they're kind of a drag.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

To fine tune the answer up there, the municipal CTA threatened legal action against the musical CTA, and with that, and their success with that first album, the musical CTA decided to change their name rather than get mired up in a legal action.

And Robert Lamm's lyrics and song name reference the artist's efforts at 3:35am or 3:36am... a bit before 4am being a good creative crunch time for a musical artist.

I wore out my first CTA album and my first two second silver albums out... played them continuously over a stereo through big speakers in our basement, as my buddies and I shot pool, talked crap, played cards, talked more crap... good times.


For star of the class, and I don't know the answer to this, but 'doesn't anybody know' what the meaning is behind Questions 67 & 68??? What was that about? I was a DJ, I know a lot of the stuff, piles about McCartney being dead, but no idea about Q's 67 & 68.

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Posted By: barry arnold

Ted,
thanks for the memories!
I saw Chicago in '70 at my alma mater, Davidson, in between protests against the war. a long time ago.

best,
barry

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

You guys are the TRIVIA KINGS this nite.....over the years, I have heard the craziest
explanations on "25 Or 6 To 4".
But, you guys have thre correct meaning behind those lyrics.


Yes, I do really love all of CHICAGO's songs.....they hit the Rock scene when it was at it's zenith.


TED Z

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

So Ted, where's my Zeenut?

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

Best I can offer you is a T206 common

TED Z

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

To refresh your minds here are the lyrics to......

CHICAGO's 2nd album......25 Or 6 To 4

Waiting for the break of day
Searching for something to say
Flashing lights against the sky
Giving up I close my eyes
Sitting cross-legged on the floor
25 or 6 to 4
Staring blindly into space
Getting up to splash my face
Wanting just to stay awake
Wondering how much I can take
Should I try to do some more
25 or 6 to 4
Feeling like I ought to sleep
Spinning room is sinking deep
Searching for something to say
Waiting for the break of day
25 or 6 to 4
25 or 6 to 4


CHICAGO's Beginnings album......Questions 67 and 68

Can this feeling that we have together
Oooh, Suddenly exist between
Did this meeting of our minds together
Oooh, Happen just today, somewhere
I'd like to know,
Can you tell me -- please don't tell me
It really doesn't matter anyhow
It's just that the thought of us so happy
Appears in my mind, as a beautifully mysterious thing

Was your image in my mind so deeply
Was your image in my mind so deeply
Oooh, other places fade away
blocking memories of unhappy hours
Oooh, Leavin' just a burnin' love
I'd like to know,
Can you tell me -- please don't tell me
It really doesn't matter anyhow
It's just that the thought of us so happy
Appears in my mind, as a beautifully mysterious thing
Yes it does now baby

Can this lovin' we have found within us
Oooh, Suddenly exist between
Did we somehow try to make it happen
Oooh, Was it just a natural thing
I'd like to know,
Can you tell me -- please don't tell me
It really doesn't matter anyhow
It's just that the thought of us so happy
Appears in my mind, as a beautifully mysterious thing
Yes it does now baby
Questions 67 and 68

Here you go FRANK, try figuring this one out.

Enjoy,

TED Z

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

I was at a CHICAGO concert in their early days (very early 1970's).

Then we saw them here in Pennsy in 1992 at the Valley Forge Music Fair (4th row seats).
Some different faces, but they had not missed a beat in those intervening 20+ years......
Great Sounds.

TED Z

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Just pulling your leg!

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Posted By: Richard Simon

As long as we are getting into Rock n Roll trivia -
two questions, one I expect to get answered quickly, the other one is a toughie.
1 - Where did the Beatles play their last concert?
2 - What was the highest paid act at Woodstock?
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I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
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We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.
No retreat baby, no surrender.
The Boss

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Posted By: Rich Klein

After all, they did a concert on the Abbey Road roof c. early 1969 but wasn't their last concert with paid attendance at Candlestick Park?

Regards
Rich

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Posted By: Anonymous

Candlestick Park.

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Rich,

1. Candlestick Park

2. Ravi Shankar (as far as I know, the ONLY paid act).

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Posted By: Richard Simon

Candlestick is correct.
Shankar is not.
As far as I know most/all the acts at Woodstock were paid. I saw at auction years ago Janis Joplin's Woodstock contract. She is not the trivia answer.
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I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
Unknown author
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We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.
No retreat baby, no surrender.
The Boss

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Posted By: Anonymous

I thought it was Hendrix.

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Posted By: Richard Simon

Not Hendrix.
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I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
Unknown author
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We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.
No retreat baby, no surrender.
The Boss

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

OK,l I might be thinking of some other concert that Bill Graham promoted. My guess then would be The Who.

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Posted By: Richard Simon

Not The Who.
I knew this would be a tough one .
The answer kinda surprised me too,when I had read it some years ago. Though they were very big at the time.
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I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
Unknown author
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We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.
No retreat baby, no surrender.
The Boss

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

It couldn't have been CSNY, as it was only their second gig.

I doubt it was the Dead.

I'll take a wild stab--Sha Na Na? (You did say "they"!)

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Posted By: Richard Simon

Smart of you to notice "they" but your answers are wrong .
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We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.
No retreat baby, no surrender.
The Boss

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Posted By: Anonymous

Just did a google search and the first site I found also says it was Hendrix.

By the time the concert had gotten underway, the site was virtually impossible to reach by car, and many performers flew to the site by helicopter. Hendrix and his band ended up making the trip in two station wagons. He was unhappy about the media reports of the size of the gathering, and by 4:00 on Sunday, was refusing to play. The fee, $18,000, was small by his standards, though he was the highest-paid performer at the festival.

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The headline act at Woodstock was Jimi Hendrix. it stated in his contract that no other band would follow his act. and he was also the highest paid performer too

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Posted By: Richard Simon

If your information about Hendrix is correct then the book or magazine article I read was wrong, but I did read a story that said that Blood, Sweat and Tears was the highest paid act.
I just read that Hendrix got $32,000 and was the highest paid.
There are conflicting stories on the web, one says $18K, one says $32K.
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I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
Unknown author
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We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.
No retreat baby, no surrender.
The Boss

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Well, Santana hadn't been around very long, so they probably wouldn't have charged much.

Let's see...other "they's" .... why can I only think of solo acts now?! Blast! Sebastian (resplendent with LSD-induced drool crust at the corner of his mouth), Havens, Guthrie....groups, darn it, groups....call me Cobb's nefarious biographer, I'm Stumped.

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Posted By: Craig W

To continue this blast from the past, here's something I dl'd years ago and kept in the "miscellaneous" folder on my PC - The Woodstock Performers' Song List:

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DAY ONE
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Richie Havens
-High Flyin' Bird
-I Can't Make It Anymore
-With A Little Help From My Friends
-Strawberry Fields For Ever
-Hey Jude
-I Had A Woman
-Handsome Johnny
-Freedom

Country Joe McDonald
-I Find Myself Missing You
-Rockin' All Around The World
-Flyin' High All Over The World
-Seen A Rocket
-Fish Cheer/I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixing-To-Die-Rag

John B. Sebastian
-How Have You Been
-Rainbows All Over Your Blues
-I Had A Dream
-Darlin' Be Home Soon
-Younger Generation

Incredible String Band
-Catty Come
-This Moment Is Different
-When You Find Out Who You Are

Sweetwater
-Motherless Child
-Look Out
-For Pete's Sake
-Day Song
-What's Wrong
-Crystal Spider
-Two Worlds
-Why Oh Why

Bert Sommer
-Jennifer
-America

Tim Hardin
-If I Were A Carpenter

Ravi Shankar
-Raga Puriya-Dhanashri/Gat In Sawarital
-Tabla Solo In Jhaptal
-Raga Manj Kmahaj
-Alap Jor
-Dhun In Kaharwa Tal
-Medium & Fast Gat In Teental

Melanie
-Beautiful People
-Birthday Of The Sun

Arlo Guthrie
-Coming Into Los Angeles
-Walking Down The Line
-Amazing Grace

Joan Baez
-Joe Hill
-Sweet Sir Galahad
-Drug Store Truck Driving Man
-Swing Low Sweet Chariot
-We Shall Overcome

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DAY TWO
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Quill
-Waitin' For You

Keef Hartly

Santana
-Persuasion
-Soul Sacrifice

Canned Heat
-A Change Is Gonna Come/Leaving This Town
-Woodstock Boogie
-Going Up The Country
-Let's Work Together
-Too Many Drivers At The Wheel

Mountain
-Blood Of The Sun (3:05) B (3:31)
-Stormy Monday
-Long Red
-For Yasgur's Farm
-Theme From An Imaginary Western
-Waiting To Take You Away
-Dreams Of Milk And Honey
-Blind Man
-Blue Suede Shoes
-Southbound Train

Janis Joplin
-Raise Your Hand
-As Good As You've Been To This World
-To Love Somebody
-Summer-time
-Try (Just A Little Bit Harder)
-Kosmic Blues
-Can't Turn You Loose
-Work Me Lord
-Piece Of My Heart
-Ball and Chain

Sly & The Family Stone
-Love City
-Dance To The Music
-Music Love
-I Want To Take You Higher

Grateful Dead
-St. Stephen
-Mama Tried
-Dark Star/High Time
-Turn On Your Lovelight

Creedence Clearwater Revival
-Born On The Bayou
-Green River
-Ninety-Nine And A Half (Won't Do)
-Commotion
-Bootleg
-Bad Moon Rising
-Proud Mary
-I Put A Spell On You
-Night Time Is The Right Time
-Keep On Choogin'
-Suzy Q

The Who
-Heaven And Hell
-I Can't Explain
-It's A Boy
-1921
-Amazing Journey
-Sparks
-Eyesight To The Blind
-Cristmas
-Tommie Can You Hear Me
-Acid Queen
-Pinball Wizard
-Abbie Hoffmann Incident
-Fiddle About
-There's A Doctor I've Found
-Go To The Mirror Boy
-Smash The Mirror
-I'm Free
-Tommy's Holiday Camp
-We're Not Gonna Take It
-See Me Feel Me
-Summertime Blues
-Shakin' All Over
-My Generation
-Naked Eye
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DAY THREE
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Jefferson Airplane
-The Other Side Of This Life
-Plastic Fantastic Lover
-Volunteers
-Saturday Afternoon/Won't You Try
-Eskimo Blue Day
-Uncle Sam's Blues
-Somebody To Love
-White Rabbit

Joe Cocker
-Delta Lady
-Some Things Goin' On
-Let's Go Get Stoned
-I Shall Be Released
-With A Little Help From My Friends

Country Joe & The Fish
-Barry's Caviar Dream
-Not So Sweet Martha Lorraine
-Rock And Soul Music
-Thing Called Love
-Love Machine
-Fish Cheer/I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixing-To-Die-Rag

Ten Years After
-Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
-I Can't Keep From Crying Sometimes
-I May Be Wrong, But I Won't Be Wrong Always
-I'm Going Home

The Band
-Chest Fever
-Baby Don't Do It
-Tears Of Rage
-We Can Talk
-Long Black Veil
-Don't You Tell Henry
-Ain't No More Cane
-Wheels On Fire
-Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever
-The Weight

Blood Sweet And Tears
-More And More
-I Love You Baby More Than You Ever Know
-Spinning Wheel
-I Stand Accused
-Something Coming On

Johnny Winter
-Mean Town Blues

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
-Suite Judy Blue Eyes
-Blackbird
-Guinnevere
-Marrakesh Express
-4 + 20
-Mr Soul
-Sea Of Madness
-Wooden Ships
-Find The Cost Of Freedom
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DAY FOUR
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Paul Butterfield Blues Band
-Everything's Gonna Be Alright
-Driftin'
-Born Under A Bad Sign
-All My Love Comin' Through To You
-Love March

Sha-Na-Na
-Na Na Theme
-Jakety Jak
-Teen Angel
-Jailhouse Rock
-Wipe Out
-Who Wrote The Book Of Love
-Duke Of Earl
-At The Hop
-Na Na Theme

Jimi Hendrix
-Message To Love
-Getting My Heart Back Together Again
-Spanish Castle Magic
-Red House
-Master Mind
-Here Comes Your Lover Man
-Foxy Lady
-Beginning
-Izabella
-Gypsy Woman
-Fire
-Voodoo Child (slight return)/Stepping Stone
-Star Spangled Banner
-Purple Haze
-Woodstock Improvisation
-Villanova Junction
-Hey Joe