Wahoo Sam Crawford a long time coming

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Posted By: dennis

IMO crawford is one of the all-time greats of the game. there is always debate here who does not belong in the HALL OF FAME and i don't think anyone has ever listed him as one who should not be in. he was by all accounts a 5 tool player. crawford last played in the majors in 1917 and was elected to the hall in 1957 by the dreaded veterens comitee,21 years after it opened! such lesser players as home run baker,rabbit maranville,fred clarke,schalk,bresnahan,& the trio of t/e/c. were already in. POST YOUR WAHOO ITEMS & COMMENTS?

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Posted By: Phil Garry

Still looking for a W600 Crawford that i can afford but here is the earliest Crawford that i currently own:

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Posted By: Dave S

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I grew up only minutes away from Wahoo, Nebraska...Sam's hometown. Sam got his baseball start by playing for the Wahoo town team. They would travel by wagon to nearby towns and they would beat all comers.

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Posted By: Ken W.

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Posted By: Zinn

My only Crawford:

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Posted By: Larry P.

"He was the Lou Gehrig of his day." - Ed Barrow

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Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: paulstratton

M116

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Posted By: Mark L

Well, no one questions Crawford's place in the Hall--but why elevate him by taking a swipe at Fred Clarke?! As a ballplayer, his competitiveness has been compared to McGraw's and Cobb's. He is a .312 lifetime hitter against National League pitching. And he led the Bucs to four pennants and to 12 first division seasons out of the 14 years he managed the Pirates. I don't think there was a better player-manager in the 20th century than Cap Clarke, so lay off him, eh.

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Posted By: Bobby Binder

A W600 request..

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Posted By: sean

Im tired of hearing about t/e/c not being deserving of the hall. They held together the infield of the 1906-1910 cubs who won 4 pennants and 2 world series. Chance deserves it without a doubt.Evers was known as being one of the smartest players in history and tinker is possibly the best cluth hitter of all time. Sometimes lifetime averages dont show for what a great player one was. Ive read about 50 books on pre WW1 era players and Maranville has gotten many a nod from the old timers. As crooked as Hal Chase was, He was no doubt a great first basemen and probably his throwing games effected his FA. We did not see these players and should read into the people who did to know truely how great they were. I have read many a player mention something good about tinker evers and chance and never heard one thign bad about them from anyone that actually1 saw them

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Posted By: MVSNYC

1.Sam Crawford 309L
2.Ty Cobb 295L
3.Honus Wagner 252R
4.Jake Beckley 243L
5.Roger Connor 233L
6.Tris Speaker 222L
7.Fred Clarke 220L
8.Dan Brouthers 205L
9.Joe Kelley 194R
10.Paul Waner 191L
11.Bid McPhee 188R
12.Eddie Collins 187L
13.Ed Delahanty 185R
14.Sam Rice 184L
15.Jesse Burkett 182L
Ed Konetchy 182R
Edd Roush 182L
18.Buck Ewing 178R
19.Rabbit Maranville 177R
Stan Musial 177L

ACTIVE LIST

1.Steve Finley 124L
2.Kenny Lofton 116L
3.Johnny Damon 87L
4.Jimmy Rollins 81B
5.Ray Durham 79B
6.Barry Bonds 77L
7.Carl Crawford74L
8.Cristian Guzman73B
9.Omar Vizquel71B
10.Juan Pierre69L
11.Luis Gonzalez67L
12.Neifi Perez61B
13.Reggie Sanders60R
14.Carlos Beltran58B
15.Ichiro Suzuki57L
16.Craig Biggio55R
Royce Clayton55R
18.Mike Cameron 54R
Julio Franco 54R
Derek Jeter54R

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Posted By: dennis

i never said fred clarke,tinker/evers/chance or rabbit maranville were not great players or deserving of being elected to the hall of fame. (as a matter of fact,i am one of the few here who believes there should be MORE players in the hall). now please,mark and sean,try READING my post again. these were lesser players than crawford,and were elected sooner. not undeserving or not great,but certainly not 5 tool players like crawford was.

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Posted By: Mark

Dennis
As you should have gathered from the serious tone of my last post, I was partly joking about the whole matter. But I did read your post with some care, and I deny that Crawford is manifestly more deserving than Clarke. I think that they are both very deserving, worthy of Baseball Writers status. Still, I'll bet that Clarke's team could beat Crawford's in a best of seven series.

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Posted By: dennis

i maybe a dope but i would be a bigger dope to take that bet, as they did win that one. also, i remember cobb being mentioned as trade bait for clarke and not the other way around.

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Posted By: Rhys

Mortens Bread Pin On the right is Crawford.

Rhys

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Posted By: John S

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Posted By: Joann

One of only 2 Crawfords I own. The other is a beat to heck 1915 CJ. This one I like.






Joann

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Posted By: Paul

Would love to have a PC796 or PC805 Crawford

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Posted By: Addie_Joss

Here is my only Wahoo. Sam Crawford was one of the greatest players of the early 20th century. The guy still has the triples record and was the first player ever to lead both leagues in home runs. He was a clutch hitter who was feared by every team he ever played against.

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Posted By: Paul S

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Posted By: sean

I read it perfectly well. I have just been seeing sooooo many posts slagging of t/e/c/ that its starting to annoy me. And my point was that anyone who is in the hof deserves to be. I love reading sam's part in glory of their times. He sounds like a take no bull kinna guy

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Posted By: Stephen Mitchell

Sign me up with those who believe Sam Crawford ranks among baseball's greatest ballplayers and his selection for the Hall of Fame was a credit to the Veteran's Committee of the 1957. (And, by extension, a significant oversight by the Baseball Writers of America Association which had ably picked off most of the obvious Hall of Fame candidates up to that time.)

The current year marks nine decades since Wahoo Sam hung up his spikes for the last time (September 16, 1917). Had he not finished up a few years before the lively ball was introduced, Sam surely would have been among the game's first 400 home run hitters. As things stand, his statistics are mighty gaudy; that they were accomplished against varying degrees of Dead Ball play testifies only to his outstanding accomplishments.

The posted card is from Crawford's final season. It is from E135 (Collins-McCarthy Candy Co.).

As an aside, my son (in his capacity as a paramedic) transported Wahoo Sam Crawford's son to a local hospital about ten years ago.

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

Bruce -i miss that card, the one that looks like a strong 6 with
a bit in the neck ,I once purchased from DAVID FESTBERG about 146 yrs ago....glad to see it. ALso the Turkey REd is a neat pose as well as all of them.

Thanks!