Tape on back of card????

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Posted By: Bill

I've come into some 1933 Goudey's that were taped to a album.So the reverse has small pieces of old tape that can not be removed.I know PSA would hit them with a MK qualifier .I'm thinking of going with SGC,so say the cards overall grade would be a 7 would it be knocked down two grades for the tape by SGC ?Thanks

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Posted By: dennis

go w/psa and take the mk....you'll get good at best from sgc

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Posted By: JK

you will get no better than a 30 from sgc. have you tried to get the tape off?

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Posted By: Bill

If I try to remove it there will be paper loss.The tape has been on there most likely 70+ years.It has become part of the card now.I can still read the back of the cards through the tape.Everthing else looks great.

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Posted By: JK

I dont know if it works for goudeys, but some cards can be soaked and the tape comes right off. it may not work with goudeys so you would want to try it on a low dollar card first.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Absolutely, do not soak a Goudey card in water. It will come apart. The cards are a sandwich of 3 to 5 layers of paper... you will have paper pulp left if you wet the card.

What you need is a non polar solvent. Old carbon tet would work, if you can find some. Goop works, as does lighter fluid, but they both leave a slight petroleum residue and smell. Water mark fluid might work. If tape is there, put a few drops of the solvent on a Qtip, and touch it to the edges of the tape. Gently work the edges of the tape upward. The solvent will disolve the adhesive residue of the tape and it will gradually release. Patience, and small amounts of solvent. Don't plan on getting done in a few minutes.

I don't know if graders put a something on a label denoting that the card smells... the smell gradually goes away. And who can smell a card through a holder???

Again, NO WATER. Water works wonderfully on T206s, it will totally destroy a Goudey card.

Frank.

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Posted By: Bill

Just Googled old carbon tet and got the Anarchist's Cookbook: Carbon-Tet Explosive.What a bout nail polish remover or some glue removing solvent?

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Posted By: dennis

that stuff will smell and cards will be rejected as altered as well, as they will be. leave as they are and you make good $$$ graded or raw.

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Posted By: David Vargha

Toluene is the best to remove tape without damaging the card or removing ink. Use a q-tip.

DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

That is correct. Toluene is the solvent of choice here. Nail polish remover (acetone) may damage the card. It may not. If not, it will probably remove the adhesive also. Put a drop on a test card to see if it dissolves the ink.

Or just go for the toluene. None of this stuff is good to breathe and some of it is highly flammable.

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Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)

But is removing tape from a card an OK form of altering.

It would not bother me, but I see this as being no different than a pencil mark or light surface wrinkle.

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Posted By: Cobby33

As I've ranted before, all of the grading companies are internally-inconsistent and worse yet, there is absolutely no uniformity across the grading companies in general.