Beware there are lots of E90-1 fakes circulating

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Posted By: Bob

Private auctions and sales as well as ebay. The cards all seem to have come from one or two different sources. You can tell by the feel of the cards and the glossy fronts and backs. The backs have been artifically aged with tea or some other substance. There may be an attempt to lend authenticity by having a small crease. The colors are "not quite right" which is the first tip off. The fakes are getting better and better which is one reason to worry. Also, on many fakes there is a number "20" in the top left area which the cretins have discovered needs to be removed.

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Posted By: steve yawitz

I like the Wagner that's currently running on eBay. The upper corner has been strategically torn, presumably to remove the tell-tale 20. The font on the front of the fakes also looks too crisp. It doesn't have that period look to it.

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Posted By: jP

thanks for the heads up.

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Posted By: Bill K

This is exactly why this board is so important and valuable! Thank you Bob for bringing this to light.

Bill

My personal collection - http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/fkm_bky/

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Posted By: Cobby33

Can we assume graded cards are ok?

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Posted By: quan

i think before collecting a set you should get to know the issue and its characteristics. buying graded stuff isn't necessarily the answer.

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Posted By: Cobby33

Agreed, but there's only so much time in the day and where do you draw the line between being "informed" and being so skittish you never buy another card again?

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Posted By: quan

well not everything is learned in one day, it's a great hobby and i enjoy talking about cards (particularly caramels) and learning from other collectors with common interests...such as pete c, tbob, tim s, jim b scott b etc and you pick up little by little. it's a fun and relaxing journey. i've found grading companies to be pretty worthless except assigning grades accurately at an 85% clip.

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Posted By: fkw

These cards are fairly easy to spot if you have a clear scan like the Bresnahan above. I always look at the caption at bottom. When they make/design these reprints they crop just the photo part of the card then have to reproduce the border and have to add a new caption similar to the authentic card at the bottom. Most reprints dont get the caption style, font, or spacing of the letters quite right. On these E90-1 the caption is way to clean and crisp looking and the letters "a", "g", etc. are slightly different in design. Also the ink color is slightly different.

If the scans are smaller and or slightly blury it is much tougher to tell.

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Posted By: Cobby33

Interesting...Thanks everyone for your input!

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

DITTO.......on the type face of the caption and this is important since you do
not always get a back scan. Here is a couple of real ones, note the caption
lettering.

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Posted By: Steve M.

Seller has four listed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-AMERICAN-CARAMEL-DYGERT-PHILA-AMER-N-MINT_W0QQitemZ8823675113QQihZ005QQcategoryZ86840QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted By: Bob Shannon

Steve, They are not reprints but all four of his e90-1's are trimmed-

Bob