19th Century Single Card Record (Publicly Sold)

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Posted By: Trevor Hocking

Here it is 101k for Terry's Daley Old Judge PCL. Congrats for the great price on an amazing card.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8729979472&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1>

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

I sure wish I knew who to congratulate on such a fine acquisition.

To whomever it was that won (no speculation here), CONGRATULATIONS!!!

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Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)

I especially like that this card is in such "technically" poor condition (a ten, yes, but an SGC "10" not a PSA 10 !)and still warranted that kind of money.... I wonder if Terry gets the "Power Seller" solicitation email now ?

And congrats to whomever won... as long as it wasn't a multinational corporation that will be exhibiting the card in its Tokyo office or something .

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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Has anyone in the hobby ever owned a complete group of California League N172's? I thought I'd heard that Lipset did.

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

I wonder if anyone knows what a complete set of Cal League N172 consists of. There's the known and the unknown...

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Posted By: john/z28jd

I got to see the card in person on Saturday and today and its an amazing looking card,it was worth the trip alone......of course i saw it when it was only worth $49,500

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

Quick comment. That snipe bid in the closing seconds was rather impressive. I wonder how much the actual bid was by that high bidder... I guess it could have been thousands more...

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Posted By: john/z28jd

I was wondering if there were any snipe bids which didnt get in because the price jumped over 101k,wouldve been nice to see how many others were interested in such a rare card at such a high price.Of course being private,we wouldve never know if all the bids were by different people or multiple bids by one person(obviously against someone else)

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Posted By: Anonymous

ths is a recoerd for any 19th century card?

I doubt it.

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Posted By: Brian C Daniels

not even close.

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Posted By: Scot

I remember a young man on this site that said poor condition cards were a waist of money. Congratulations Terry, from your over sized Old Judge buddy.

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Posted By: Trevor Hocking

Maybe I should have said Publicly Sold card. Please tell I would love to hear of the other 100k plus 19th century cards that have sold.

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Yes, congratulations to the winner.

I fairly certain that neither Lew Lipset nor anyone else has or had a complete set of California League cards. Of the nineteen known players, I suspect very few, if anyone, have hit the halfway point (my speculation only).

Regards,
Joe G.

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Posted By: barrysloate

When I auctioned the Gypsy Queen of MacDonald in November 2001 for $80,273, it was a record that stood until this card sold. Congratulations to Terry, and I never understood why mine lasted as long as it did. Of course, I suspect there have been private transactions for greater than 80K, but all of these are confidential so there is no way for me to keep up with them. I'm glad someone has the new record. In this market, Terry's may not last a week. He should enjoy it while he can.

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Posted By: Jim Clarke

It's only fitting that one of the premier 19th century dealers gets to hold the record right now. We should be fortunate that Terry still sells this kind of material and makes it available to the public. 3 years from now, this price will look like a bargin... JC

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

You too can have the Oakland Daily....



http://cgi.ebay.com/1889-Old-Judge-CALIFORNIA-LEAGUE-Dailey-Oaklands-magnet_W0QQitemZ5644953074QQcategoryZ1469QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted By: Paul

Any guess what this card would sell for if it was in Ex? In Nrmt? Would it make much difference?

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Posted By: Marc S.

<<Any guess what this card would sell for if it was in Ex? In Nrmt? Would it make much difference?>>

It is the rarity of the card that makes it valuable - not so much the condition. If it was in EX/MT - I can't see it selling for much more - definitely not a multiple. Condition truly only becomes more valuable and important when there are a bunch of different possibilities to choose from. On a Honus, a Magie or something like that - condition matters much more than when you are talking about a California N172, a Just So, etc.

~m

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Posted By: zach

Hit the nail on the head, when it comes to a card like this the formula is
rarity>condition.

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

So that means the refigerator magnet is worth how much?

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Fred:

Wouldn't it depend on how many Dailey refigerator magnets there were in existence? I would think that if the one on ebay was the only one, surely it would be worth every bit of $9.99!

Kevin

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

I thought about that and figured the same thing... it would matter how many were available... but then another thought came to mind... what if they make 50 of these magnets. That would be 50 mint condition magnets.... now lets say I trash one, there would be 1 Gd+ condition magnet and 49 Mint magnets. Would that make my Gd+ condition magnet more valuable?