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Old 09-19-2005, 10:17 AM
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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

The same seller who Josh recently bought from has more willard's available. Josh's story aside, while the dealer has good feedback, he has some pretty customer unfriendly policies and seems to be out of touch ... It's pretty evident that if i purchase the three cards i want from him, that they will all be trimmed and that i'll have no recourse. So how rare are these cards? Also, what would be a reasonable price for cards from this issue that are probably trimmed.

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:27 AM
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli

Uh-oh.

Can you direct me to the thread that discusses this? I recently purchased a Willard's Chocolates card from a seller that had a whole bunch of them up for auction on eBay. Did I buy a trimmed card without knowing it?

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:32 AM
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A few down, trimmed card question....

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:51 AM
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli

Well, there you go. I bought the Jesse Haines - same seller, same bunch of cards, same mistake of not thoroughly reading the description.

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This is the drawback of doing a HOF type card set - a set I collect intensely, like 1938 Goudeys, I can spot an alteration pretty easily, because I'm so familiar with the set. Trying to do HOFers in as many different card types as possible, its easy to run into a set that you've got no familiarity with, and get stuck with an altered card.

Oh, well, my bad. Back to the thread topic. It's a really nice card nonetheless, and I'm glad to have it - if it truly is scarce, I'm sure it's worth bidding on. The problem is that I'm sure others made the same mistake I did when buying from the last lot, so it's tough to use those auctions as an assessment of "value".

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Old 09-20-2005, 05:05 PM
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Posted By: Tim Newcomb

Or at least handcut. I received my two from "theiceking" today-- they're not worthless, but they're not worth what he was pulling from that first batch. I would hope the remainder of his Willard's will go a lot lower than the first ones did.

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Old 09-20-2005, 05:26 PM
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Well i can't imagine it's much of a secret which card i'm looking at..just debating how rare these things are.... this guy is a scummy seller...but he's got one of my boys (actually 2 of them)....


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Old 09-20-2005, 06:43 PM
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Posted By: Frank Evanov

FYI, PSA would not holder the V100 Branch Rickey I got from the Iceking.

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Old 09-20-2005, 06:45 PM
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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

so torn....i don't care if the card is trimmed that i'm intent on buying, just want to make sure that i'm paying a fair price..ya know.

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Old 09-21-2005, 06:05 PM
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Posted By: Frank Evanov

PSA has responded to me about not grading my V100 Branch Rickey. Apparently the real V100's have the players' names in SCRIPT. My card has the name in block letters. So, I don't know if ICEKING is selling reprints or what! I have requested a refund.



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Old 09-21-2005, 07:04 PM
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Posted By: Paul

I have seen the Rickey before and his name does appear in block letters. This is very unusual for the Willards set, but that is the way the Rickey card was issued. I suppose it's possible that the Rickeys I've seen in the past were fake too, but I'd be willing to take that risk and take this card off your hands.

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Old 09-21-2005, 07:16 PM
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund

Paul is right...the Rickey is in block letters, at least the few that I have seen.

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Old 09-21-2005, 09:09 PM
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Posted By: Frank Evanov

Thanks for the info guys. I will take it up with PSA's "Vintage Expert".

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Frank ... let me know what happens...this guy will be a lot more willing to resolve the issue peacefully if there are a bunch of us pissed off... especially with that bullcr*p restocking fee and all the other bogus policies he has.

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never know it by the work product

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Old 09-22-2005, 04:57 PM
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Posted By: Frank Evanov

Ice refuses a refund since it is past 14 days [it took 8 days to arrive from Canada anyway] and he feels that the auction clearly states the cards are cut from a sheet and the buyer should assume PSA won't grade them.

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Frank - please call me...

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