Be careful.....as Clint 25 has....

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

Bad Cracker Jacks just listed.

The grass is supposed to be Green and less you have done a lude or PCP,there is no way that grass is purple!

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Posted By: (owner of the DK card collection cira 1999)

http://cgi.ebay.com/1888-N162-GOODWIN-MITCHELL-BOXING-SGC-10_W0QQitemZ5233438515QQcategoryZ55985QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

1998, insensitive one !

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Posted By: (owner of the DK card collection cira 1999)

at least someone you know has the hoard!

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

as long as you love me !

Did Clint pullem ???...if so , no harm.

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Posted By: BCD

maybe he will listen. Frank Ward did that several years back and got booted for alleged 'auction interference' even though he merely told someone their cards were reprints!

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Posted By: BCD

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86841&item=5234234555

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Posted By: Bob

Hoping his scanner is whacky. Both the Wheat and the lot of 2- Benz and Crandall have this color trouble. Well, I paid with paypal, credit card, just in case....
Guy has 853 feedback, 100%. One of his latest happy buyers was a "petecld."

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Posted By: quan

wheat image looks cropped to me and the borders r too white from the photo and paperstock is too smooth:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44821&item=5228109004

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Posted By: Bob

Not good, I agree. Funny how the grass in the scans from the person he bought them from also looks purple.

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Posted By: BCD

guess why? They are all reprints with giant borders Bob!

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Posted By: Bob

Serves me right for buying a card from a set I know nothing about. I emailed him requesting a return of the payment and sent him the link Quan provided. He got the cards from someone from Paragould, Arkansas. I can pretty safely say I know the vintage card collectors in this state or at least the ones who sell on ebay and this is someone I had never heard of. I am going to go to Paypal now.

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Posted By: BCD

It came from Clinton!

The money was to go for the misses taken a shot at Washington!


There has got to be better ways.....

and I am sure you know a thing or two about this set. You know as much as anyone on here about vintage cards you humble democrap you!

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

good luck Bob...as a note, i had a similar experience with a seller of a computer product off ebay but one that used paypal for getting paid, i got a very understanding woman on the phone who credited me back the money!

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Clinton using it to pay for dry cleaning bills.........

Definitely bad. Probably the most heavily faked set in history (other than 206's). See them all the time around here. Coffee stains, creases, artificially rounded corners and other methods. Flea markets are riddled with them. $15-$25 each for commons and up for HOFers. Tell everyone they are fake and I'm the idiot..........

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Posted By: tbob

Just wanted to report that seller, Clint Culbertson (Clint25), was extremely nice about it and refunded my money. He said he was not that familiar with the Cracker Jack cards and apologized. So all's well that end's well.
I guess this goes to show that the old maxim about ebay vintage cards, "if it looks like a great deal, it probably isn't" applies, unfortunately.

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Posted By: James Feagin

For the novice CJ collector. What are some of the major ways you can tell a reprint from the real deal?

James

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Posted By: tbob

I should have read this first. here you go:

I think it's worth reprinting a post from Frank Ward where he explained how
to spot fake CJ's.

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Here is some info on the Cracker Jack sets.

1914's will say "144 Pictures" in the paragraph on back bottom, the 1915's will say "176 Pictures". The ACC# (American Card Catalog Number) for the 1914's is "E145-1", and 1915's is "E145-2".

There are many many reprints (all worthless) made for the 1915 set, and a few for the 1914's. The easiest way to tell a reprint from an original is to look at the paper type and quality. Real cards are made from a thin lower quality construction paper, very porous in texture, with a rough surface if viewed closely on both front and back. All fakes Ive seen will be made from a thin higher quality smooth surfaced modern card stock. Also the fakes will have a smooth slightly glossy or waxy surface to the front, the real cards have no gloss or waxy look to them and will not cast a glare if turned at angle to a light.

Another 100% positive way to tell a fake on the 1915's only ("176 Picture" series), is for some unknown reason, the backs on all 1915's have been printed upside down. In other words, the bottom edge of the back, is the same edge as the top of the front. I have yet to see a 1915 reprint with this upside downback.

Another characteristic of all real Cracker Jack cards, is there is no white ink on the cards. The white or light parts of the uniform is the natural paper color. Most fakes have a white ink for the white parts of uniform, that
doesnt match the white border of the card. Real cards will have the uniform blend perfectly into the white border where they meet.