34 Goudey variation 1/1?

[tireolddawg]

Hi Everyone, new member Jack here. I collect 14 cracker jacks, 34 Goudey, 50, 53, 55 Bowman, and 54 Wilson Franks. I have a question about a 34 Goudey I picked up. I came across the pictured George Watkins 34 Goudey on EBay listed by a big (the biggest?) dealer. It has a white background vs the typical yellow background. Looks like the printer probably ran out of yellow ink. I tried to do some digging and all I could find about the card was a blog post from 2011 by the dealer in question about the card. I called the dealer and they said they had never seen another one which says a lot because they have millions of cards in inventory. It is differentiated on the SGC pop report and is a pop 1. I am curious if anyone has ever seen another example of this variation. It’s possible there are raw versions out there. Also possible that PSA just doesn’t differentiate the variation on the pop report but has graded them before, impossible to know though. Thanks!

[AbeCurry]

Originally Posted by tireolddawg

Hi Everyone, new member Jack here. I collect 14 cracker jacks, 34 Goudey, 50, 53, 55 Bowman, and 54 Wilson Franks. I have a question about a 34 Goudey I picked up. I came across the pictured George Watkins 34 Goudey on EBay listed by a big (the biggest?) dealer. It has a white background vs the typical yellow background. Looks like the printer probably ran out of yellow ink. I tried to do some digging and all I could find about the card was a blog post from 2011 by the dealer in question about the card. I called the dealer and they said they had never seen another one which says a lot because they have millions of cards in inventory. It is differentiated on the SGC pop report and is a pop 1. I am curious if anyone has ever seen another example of this variation. It’s possible there are raw versions out there. Also possible that PSA just doesn’t differentiate the variation on the pop report but has graded them before, impossible to know though. Thanks!

This is very similar to my Goudey Proofs from the 33 set. We should talk. IMG_6782.jpg


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[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by AbeCurry

This is very similar to my Goudey Proofs from the 33 set. We should talk. Attachment 651535


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Wow...nice Goudey proofs AbeCurry! All of your "white" ones appear to be mostly just that color. I do notice that the 1934 Goudey Watkins the original poster shared has what appears to be normal coloration on his face and cap, as well as the angled bar at bottom. I seem to remember that there are proof Goudey cards out there that display different progressions of the printing process. Would this Watkins be an example of a card further along the printing process?

Brian (asking for a friend of someone else's friend)

[tireolddawg]

Those proofs are so cool, had never seen one until I started reading threads on here actually. I had the same thought as Brian when you mentioned the proofs. There aren’t 33 proofs that have the same characteristics as this Watkins (with only background color missing), but maybe they did proofs different in 34. Another interesting point is that SGC only assigns authentic grades to the proofs, while this Watkins got a numerical grade.

[AbeCurry]

The printing process usually goes yellow, magenta, cyan, then black so my assumption is that this somehow missed either the first station or the roller ran out of ink for this card. It would be interesting to look at the sheet order. I’ll start doing some research and let you know what I find.


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[Misunderestimated]

I do not know how exactly how variation is defined... I mean in hobby parlance .... I can look it up and know how to use the word is spoken and written English....
Anyone care to explain whether this is a "variation" in hobby terms?
I'm not sure if this qualifies.

[tireolddawg]

Thanks AbeCurry, I’d be very interested. And to your point Misunderestimated, I realized shortly after starting the thread that variation wasn’t the right word to use. Assuming it’s a result of a lack of ink in the printer, I guess the word to use would be error.

[Misunderestimated]

Sorry didn't mean to be so snarky...

[Casey2296]

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Welcome to the sub Jack and...

Holy crap Abe!

[NiceDocter]

Not trying to be a wet blanket here...... but Ive seen other cards (specifically 1958 Topps) where it looks like the yellow was missed (greens turning to blue, yellow looks white) and it was the result of prolonged sun exposure bleaching out the yellow. Im not saying your card had this but it makes me wonder.... no matter what, its sure different looking. Cool card.