Awesome Early Jackie Robinson PC, Hilarious Ebay Description

[Lucas00]

Think you all might enjoy this one it's pretty funny, lol. Super cool PC, I've never seen one before of Jackie in a Montreal uni.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40527128580...mis&media=COPY

[bocca001]

Golden pineapple

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

LOL, stamped autograph, not a photo (or even a RPPC) how many "mistakes" can be made in one listing?

[tiger8mush]

From the listing:

This is a rare and authentic photo of Jackie Robinson, signed by the baseball legend himself. The photo is from 1946, during Robinson's time with the Montreal Royals. It is a vintage piece of sports memorabilia that any collector would love to have in their collection. The photo is an original and has not been reproduced. This is a must-have for any fan of baseball and Jackie Robinson.

This particular photo was sent to my grandfather (The name on the back) and I want this photo to never be lost. I want the highest dollar to amount possible starting at $500,000. or it can go to the Baseball hall of fame, and out of circulation, forever. Please know anyone with a Billion Dollars this sale is for you. Buy now for Nine-Hundred and Ninety-Nine thousand, Nine-Hundred and Ninety-Nine Dollars and 00/100 cents and it is all yours. Until then it will be kept from sunlight and moisture and I will keep it until I get my request. My Grandfather left this for me and I need someone to help me out financially more than I could ever imagine. At the current moment the listing price will not budge but the for-sale price can be based on the highest dollar amount.. Billionaires and Savvy investors know I didn't get this Authenticated. I don't have the money and I don't care that's why I am selling it to you "Billionaire Bob". I need someone with the love of baseball and someone with a lot of money to help me greatly. Please Start off Phone call/email with KEYWORD: Golden Pineapple and I will know you are serious about the purchase. Good day, America. God Bless the USA.

[Balticfox]

What a buffoon!

[Jobu]

That is a real RPPC and it looks like live ink to me.

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

LOL, stamped autograph, not a photo (or even a RPPC) how many "mistakes" can be made in one listing?

[raulus]

Well, I guess when I get a billion dollars, then I can help him out.

Hopefully he finds someone in the meantime with that kind of cash lying around to help him out of his financial deficit.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Jobu

That is a real RPPC and it looks like live ink to me.

It's a "linen" postcard (hence the texture) I don't think it's even possible to be an RRPC on that style of postcard. As for live ink, well, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

[dbrown]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

It's a "linen" postcard (hence the texture) I don't think it's even possible to be an RRPC on that style of postcard. As for live ink, well, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

It's a weird one — that EKC stamp box is period-correct but I have never seen a RPPC with a texture on its front surface.

HOWEVER, there is a nearly identical example that sold at Hunt in July 2023 ($25K), with the same texture and same EKC back. I'm going with "real."

https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...m=25&lot_qual=

[JollyElm]

This just in:
Looks like he dropped his price!!! It's time for us bargain hunters to storm his eBay castle!!!!!!!!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by dbrown

It's a weird one — that EKC stamp box is period-correct but I have never seen a RPPC with a texture on its front surface.

HOWEVER, there is a nearly identical example that sold at Hunt in July 2023 ($25K), with the same texture and same EKC back. I'm going with "real."

https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...m=25&lot_qual=

I double checked and "linen" (I keep putting that in quotes because that is what they are called in postcard circles, but they are not acutally linen of course) postcards can NOT be RPPC's. I didn't think so but had to look it up to be sure. There's no way to develop a photo on that stock. They are normal printed postcards.

That doesn't mean it's not crazy rare and valuable, but it ain't a photo of any kind. I ascribe a ton of that value to the beautiful signature. Then add in that it's on a rare "pre-rookie" postcard and voila.

I also find it hilarious that someone put it into that photo frame from Lebanon, PA. What earthly sense that makes is beyond me.

[dbrown]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I double checked and "linen" (I keep putting that in quotes because that is what they are called in postcard circles, but they are not acutally linen of course) postcards can NOT be RPPC's. I didn't think so but had to look it up to be sure. There's no way to develop a photo on that stock. They are normal printed postcards.

That's all true, but these Robinson examples are not linen postcards.

This postcard has a texture, but it is not the texture of linen postcards, which have a cross-hatched or 'woven' texture, which gives them their name.

There are plenty of examples of photo papers that have a surface texture -- I'm thinking of 1970s color snapshots as an easy example for the over-50 set -- but I had not seen a RPPC with a texture like this before today. That authenticated example that sold in Hunt along with this one make a pretty good argument that they exist.

EKC photo postcard stock was a Kodak product. (EKC = Eastman Kodak Company). Any postcard on EKC stock is a photographic print.


David

[Fred]

So where is the perceived value? Is it the Montreal picture? Is it the autograph? Is it because people want to believe it was signed the year he was playing for Montreal (pre-MLB)? If it's because it's supposed to have been signed pre 1947, then how would anybody know that.

Me, I'm a sucker, I think it's probably real, but that signature should be compared to how he signed at different points in his career.

I haven't seen a PC with that texture, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is a period piece.

That's one thing about this hobby, so much suspicion, and rightfully so these days (not that things like this didn't happen in the pre-investment days of the hobby).

[brunswickreeves]

I’d put the value at….

[Jobu]

+1.

George Burke printed lots of photos with a matte finish that were real photos and had this texture. Here is my Dizzy Dean. The Dean, and many Burkes, is 4" x 6" and printed on cardstock like postcards - I see no reason why EKC couldn't have had this product line. In fact, when I first saw this I immediately wondered if this might be a Burke image.

Originally Posted by dbrown

That's all true, but these Robinson examples are not linen postcards.

This postcard has a texture, but it is not the texture of linen postcards, which have a cross-hatched or 'woven' texture, which gives them their name.

There are plenty of examples of photo papers that have a surface texture -- I'm thinking of 1970s color snapshots as an easy example for the over-50 set -- but I had not seen a RPPC with a texture like this before today. That authenticated example that sold in Hunt along with this one make a pretty good argument that they exist.

EKC photo postcard stock was a Kodak product. (EKC = Eastman Kodak Company). Any postcard on EKC stock is a photographic print.


David

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Jobu

+1.

George Burke printed lots of photos with a matte finish that were real photos and had this texture. Here is my Dizzy Dean. The Dean, and many Burkes, is 4" x 6" and printed on cardstock like postcards - I see no reason why EKC couldn't have had this product line. In fact, when I first saw this I immediately wondered if this might be a Burke image.

If you are saying your Dean and the posted Jackie on ebay and in Hunt are on the same paper then I am stumped.

[Exhibitman]

The texture does not preclude a photograph. I've sold photos with a similar texture from as far back as the 1920s. Now that said, this is a far from ideal situation and we could be seeing some scanner artifacts.

[JustinD]

As mentioned prior, a similar postcard has been sold a few times over the past few years, for much less than a billion. It has similar texture and the personalization could be read that this was an item Jackie would mail autograph seekers and fans. This seems to be real to me as well. Now without seeing a postally used example with a cancel it’s still up to the buyer to believe date of production, but there is decent chance Jackie was possibly the source or just simply mailing back a submission. That Eastman Kodak stamp box is supposedly used from 1930-1950, so it would fit the window. I am not even slightly able to date Jackie Robinson signature styles over the years, maybe someone can see a difference if this signature was early or later in career.

https://lelands.com/bids/circa-1946-...o-postcard-jsa

https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...m=25&lot_qual=

Interestingly, Leland’s has also sold the negative for this photo in the past as well -
https://lelands.com/bids/1946-jackie...-negative--2x3

[jakebeckleyoldeagleeye]

Good old grandpa.

[Leon]

I was going to offer 900 million but figured he would just decline it.

Some good info in this thread.
And here, in this thread, Burke is mentioned again
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[Topnotchsy]

I saw that one and read the description and immediately wanted to assume it was a worthless piece, but looking at the image, the signature looks real and while I'm not an expert on postcards, it seemed like it had a shot to be real.

If both are legit, it is probably a $10K+ item.

Here are some sigs to compare to if anyone wants to try dating it.

In Order
- I believe this is from 1953
- 1946
- 1947
- 1946

[Balticfox]

"I want the highest dollar to amount possible starting at $500,000...."

There's a big difference between $10,000(perhaps) and $500,000. The listing is beyond silly.