Miguel Cabrera

[clydepepper]

Hit his 495th homer last night, and, with a double today, needs 35 hits for 3,000.

Detroit has been playing better.



Which of these two facts has been noticed the least?


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[SAllen2556]

Well, I live here and I went to my first Tiger game since 2018. Attendance is ticking up, but it's been 4 years of awful baseball and there's just not much attention being paid to the team until just recently, and the attention is mostly about the prospects coming up like Mize, Skubal, Torkelson, and Greene. And, of course the pandemic and the short season really took a toll on what little attention would have been paid.

And Miggy has been, overall, really bad. He has occasional moments, but he's a shell of what he was. I guess for 30 million a year I'd be playing too, but it must be tough on him. And the thing about Miggy is, unlike Verlander, he's never really opened up to the fans much. His english is still lousy and he doesn't do too many interviews. I guess for what he's paid there's no reason for him to worry about marketing himself, but it's a shame really how he's not revered here like Al Kaline was or Steve Yzerman is, because he should be. He's the best baseball player I've ever seen. There was a time when you'd watch him bat and it was like he was playing slo-pitch softball while everyone else was playing fast pitch. He could hit the ball anywhere he wanted, whenever he wanted. He would swing and miss on purpose just to mess with a pitcher.

He's a good example, I think, of why baseball is not as popular as it used to be. Players who do as little as possible when it comes to interacting with the fans or the media. Players who don't live year-around in the cities they play in. Players with language barriers. Norm Cash used to work in Detroit in the off-season as a sales rep, lived in the area all year round, and he went to the same bars after the game as the fans did. Imagine such a thing today.

[packs]

I'm not from Detroit so I don't know what his relationship with fans there is, but when I used to go to Tiger camp during spring training Miguel Cabrera was a very generous signer who often signed for an hour or more after practice every time I was there.

You know who seemed like they always regretted getting out of their car though? Al Kaline. He would sign for a little while but he never gave me the impression he enjoyed it.

[ALR-bishop]

What does it say about a guy who does not seem to like doing something but does it anyway

[SAllen2556]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm not from Detroit so I don't know what his relationship with fans there is, but when I used to go to Tiger camp during spring training Miguel Cabrera was a very generous signer who often signed for an hour or more after practice every time I was there.

You know who seemed like they always regretted getting out of their car though? Al Kaline. He would sign for a little while but he never gave me the impression he enjoyed it.

Yeah. Kaline could be a curmudgeon as he got older, and I'm not saying Miggy isn't a good guy. I think he is. It's just that if you compare him with Verlander, for example, I think Tiger fans feel a much stronger connection to JV than Miggy. It might just be the language barrier, or maybe JV was just better with the media.

I'll betcha that Kaline signed his name as much or more than any hall-of-famer, though.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Yeah. Kaline could be a curmudgeon as he got older, and I'm not saying Miggy isn't a good guy. I think he is. It's just that if you compare him with Verlander, for example, I think Tiger fans feel a much stronger connection to JV than Miggy. It might just be the language barrier, or maybe JV was just better with the media.

I'll betcha that Kaline signed his name as much or more than any hall-of-famer, though.

"Alex, I'll take Bob Feller for $200."

[scmavl]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

"Alex, I'll take Bob Feller for $200."

You'll be lucky to take Bob Feller for $10.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Well, I live here and I went to my first Tiger game since 2018. Attendance is ticking up, but it's been 4 years of awful baseball and there's just not much attention being paid to the team until just recently, and the attention is mostly about the prospects coming up like Mize, Skubal, Torkelson, and Greene. And, of course the pandemic and the short season really took a toll on what little attention would have been paid.

And Miggy has been, overall, really bad. He has occasional moments, but he's a shell of what he was. I guess for 30 million a year I'd be playing too, but it must be tough on him. And the thing about Miggy is, unlike Verlander, he's never really opened up to the fans much. His english is still lousy and he doesn't do too many interviews. I guess for what he's paid there's no reason for him to worry about marketing himself, but it's a shame really how he's not revered here like Al Kaline was or Steve Yzerman is, because he should be. He's the best baseball player I've ever seen. There was a time when you'd watch him bat and it was like he was playing slo-pitch softball while everyone else was playing fast pitch. He could hit the ball anywhere he wanted, whenever he wanted. He would swing and miss on purpose just to mess with a pitcher.

He's a good example, I think, of why baseball is not as popular as it used to be. Players who do as little as possible when it comes to interacting with the fans or the media. Players who don't live year-around in the cities they play in. Players with language barriers. Norm Cash used to work in Detroit in the off-season as a sales rep, lived in the area all year round, and he went to the same bars after the game as the fans did. Imagine such a thing today.

I hope this doesn't come off as politically incorrect, but I think something inevitably is lost when the player isn't really fluent in the language. And there is a fair amount of that with such a high percentage of Latinx (did I use that right?) players in this era.

PS It's never comfortable to see great players hang on where they aren't even good any more. Without looking to start a steroid discussion, as a Red Sox fan, I was glad to see Ortiz exit while still very productive.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I hope this doesn't come off as politically incorrect, but I think something inevitably is lost when the player isn't really fluent in the language. And there is a fair amount of that with such a high percentage of Latinx (did I use that right?) players in this era.

PS It's never comfortable to see great players hang on where they aren't even good any more. Without looking to start a steroid discussion, as a Red Sox fan, I was glad to see Ortiz exit while still very productive.

You and Stephen A Smith. I'll take it at face value though and not rake you through the coals. I certainly thought Tony La Russa said worse earlier this year about his player swinging on 3-0. My dad taught me to "kick em when their down" during competition. But that's also because we were Seahawks fans, and they always found ways to lose in the 1990s.

But I think there is certainly smoke and fire about the statement. Although, Ichiro comes to mind as a player that everyone loves even though he had built a wall. He is still adored in Seattle. His autograph is working its way up to the top of my buy list.

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[Snapolit1]

Derek Jerer speaks perfect English, is idolized by millions, and never said anything remotely interesting in his entire career. Go figure.

Originally Posted by todeen

You and Stephen A Smith. I'll take it at face value


though and not rake you through the coals. I certainly thought Tony La Russa said worse earlier this year about his player swinging on 3-0. My dad taught me to "kick em when their down" during competition. But that's also because we were Seahawks fans, and they always found ways to lose in the 1990s.

But I think there is certainly smoke and fire about the statement. Although, Ichiro comes to mind as a player that everyone loves even though he had built a wall. He is still adored in Seattle. His autograph is working its way up to the top of my buy list.

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[todeen]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Derek Jerer speaks perfect English, is idolized by millions, and never said anything remotely interesting in his entire career. Go figure.

Yeah, dudes boring. Not boring, Yasiel Puig & Joey Votto

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[mcgwirecom]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Hit his 495th homer last night, and, with a double today, needs 35 hits for 3,000.

Detroit has been playing better.



Which of these two facts has been noticed the least?


.

I think he still needs 59 hits