Is this possible

[theshleps]

I thought this card came out in 1987 and he died in 1986? Did it come out earlier? Also the 2nd card- is it a 1988 Dover or a 1972 TCMA. Any ideaaa Greenberg 1987 All time greats.jpg

aaGreenberg 1988 Goudey reprint or could be 1972tcma.jpg

[oldjudge]

LOL, only if you believe in reincarnation

[Elderwood17]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

LOL, only if you believe in reincarnation

That would be the only logical explanation - LOL!

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by theshleps

I thought this card came out in 1987 and he died in 1986? Did it come out earlier? Also the 2nd card- is it a 1988 Dover or a 1972 TCMA. Any ideaAttachment 363864

Attachment 363865

In '86, it was just a flesh wound

[trambo]

He died of cancer in September 1986. A few possible solutions:

-these cards were released in August 1986 (like a car model year) or before and he signed a few of them before he passed away.

-Hygrade asked the living players to sign a few when they were producing them but before they released them.

-it's a fake and PSA/DNA missed it

I draw zero conclusions but just a few thoughts about the card.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by trambo

He died of cancer in September 1986. A few possible solutions:

-these cards were released in August 1986 (like a car model year) or before and he signed a few of them before he passed away.

-Hygrade asked the living players to sign a few when they were producing them but before they released them.

-it's a fake and PSA/DNA missed it

I draw zero conclusions but just a few thoughts about the card.

If I was going to bet, I would bet on C

[trambo]

that's up to you. I was just giving other possibilities that are equally as possible as a PSA error. Not enough info in a quick search to see when the set was actually released.

[theshleps]

I couldnt find out when they were released. If it was 1986 or 1987? I researched the 1936 Goudey reprint further. It seems most were 1988 Dover reprint tho there were some 1972 TCMA. I won't be reunited with that card so I won't know until late October which mine is- hopefully a 1972 and not a signed from the grave 1988.
This still leaves the Hygrade baseball all time greats in question.

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by trambo

that's up to you. I was just giving other possibilities that are equally as possible as a PSA error.

“Equally as possible”?? LOL. Just because you come up with three possibilities, that doesn’t mean each them is equally likely to be true.

[trambo]

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid

“Equally as possible”?? LOL. Just because you come up with three possibilities, that doesn’t mean each them is equally likely to be true.

Fair point and a poor choice of words but the other two options are as possible as a PSA misstep (perhaps even more). I know that the bashing of PSA is a popular choice today but that doesn't make it the proper one.

[G1911]

I like the Hygrade set, as it and the related T206 Wagner/Plank, T207 Lewis and 1933 Goudey Lajoie reprints were some of the first cards of old-timers I had as a kid. There is no copyright, and this was apparently unlicensed. I believe I have a scan of an advertisement showing they were available in 1986 as well I'll try to find. I'd think it unlikely the auto is real, as this would have debuted late 86

[rhettyeakley]

The 1936 Goudey reprint I believe is a TCMA reprint from 1972, those collectors issues are actually pretty popular these days. Without seeing the back I can't be 100% but it looks like the ones I have (I have that set). In general the Dover reprints either came in book form with perforations on some of the borders of the cards or in sets but they were almost all pretty thin stock and highly glossy (that 1936 doesn't show either of those characteristics from what I can tell).

[leaflover]

For a man dying of cancer that is a pretty strong signature.