question about Swedish Rekord Pele RC

[Peter_Spaeth]

Relatively speaking this card is quite inexpensive , or so it appears to me. Is this because 1) it's so plentiful, 2) it's a two player card, 3) it has Pele's name wrong, or 4) something else?

[Anish]

I think reason number one is that it’s hand cut while Pelé has several pack issued rookie cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Anish

I think reason number one is that it’s hand cut while Pelé has several pack issued rookie cards.

I guess I had looked past that in light of the Hemmets Clay where hand cut doesn't seem to matter, but there I suppose there is no alternative.

[Anish]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I guess I had looked past that in light of the Hemmets Clay where hand cut doesn't seem to matter, but there I suppose there is no alternative.

Yeah...if there were multiple pack issued Clay’s from 1960 I’m sure the Hemmets would be an afterthought.

[aljurgela]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Relatively speaking this card is quite inexpensive , or so it appears to me. Is this because 1) it's so plentiful, 2) it's a two player card, 3) it has Pele's name wrong, or 4) something else?

because when uncut it has Garrincha as his partner on the uncut card... are you kidding me.... a Pele Rookie AND a top 20 player a couple years into his career on the same card.... WOW.... undervalued and underappreciated... I do not like the individual card of Pele, but the uncut double is nice in my opinion....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by aljurgela

because when uncut it has Garrincha as his partner on the uncut card... are you kidding me.... a Pele Rookie AND a top 20 player a couple years into his career on the same card.... WOW.... undervalued and underappreciated... I do not like the individual card of Pele, but the uncut double is nice in my opinion....

I think it's a nice looking card although the wrong full name is a drawback. I can't decide whether to get one in order to have a Pele RC, or put down more serious $$$$ towards an Alifa.

[Copa7]

These may be factors:

1. It is cut from a publication (cut card)
2. It comes from Sweden, rather than from Brazil which superseded the 1958 World Cup.
3. The names are not the traditional nicknames - Garrincha /Pele

However, the fact that:
1. this card has two superstars on it is worthy must have in any soccer collection.

2. It displays better than some of the tiny Brazil issues.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Copa7

These may be factors:

1. It is cut from a publication (cut card)
2. It comes from Sweden, rather than from Brazil which superseded the 1958 World Cup.
3. The names are not the traditional nicknames - Garrincha /Pele

However, the fact that:
1. this card has two superstars on it is worthy must have in any soccer collection.

2. It displays better than some of the tiny Brazil issues.

"Pele" is on the card -- but they have the full name wrong.

[Anish]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think it's a nice looking card although the wrong full name is a drawback. I can't decide whether to get one in order to have a Pele RC, or put down more serious $$$$ towards an Alifa.

If you like how it looks, then go for it. But I’d go for the Alfa (or the Aquarela as a cheaper alternative).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Anish

If you like how it looks, then go for it. But I’d go for the Alfa (or the Aquarela as a cheaper alternative).

Thanks. Don't like the perforations, so I think it's down to a choice between two, the Quigol is a bit beyond what I want to spend at this time.

[aljurgela]

IMO.... you have to get a Pele rookie.

All are fine. If I had to get one (taking into account current pricing - mainly the huge premium for the Quigol at the moment), I would likely go with the Alfia...

Here are my reasons:

1. It is cardboard
2. It was issued concurrently with his World Cup debut (which was amazing in Sweden)
3. It is affordable (compared with the Quigol)
4. All the other issues have "issues" (thin paper stock, magazine cut, perforations)
5. It is attractive (to me at least)
6. The premium that the Quigol has is mostly due to the fact that most people think that it is the most attractive of the Pele rookies. I am pretty certain, however, that this was not issued in 1958, thus it is an attractive second year (at best) card. Can it still be the "best" Pele card. Absolutely - just see the Mantle 1951 Bowman vs. 1952 Topps. But this is the main reason that I am avoiding Pele Quigol cards right now.

I have one Pele card in my display case and it is the Alfia card. But, collect what you like.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Al thanks helpful analysis and I was leaning that way already. Of course deciding to buy one and finding one in the right grade at the right price are two different things.

[samosa4u]

I hate this Swedish Rekord card. What I see here is a European man's attempt to draw a dude of African descent (and he failed). Take another good look at that card - does it even look like Pele?

And I agree that the Alifabolaget is a beautiful card.

[Anish]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Al thanks helpful analysis and I was leaning that way already. Of course deciding to buy one and finding one in the right grade at the right price are two different things.

There’s a PSA 1 up right now at auction and I recently upgraded my PSA 2 so I have that one available.

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I hate this Swedish Rekord card. What I see here is a European man's attempt to draw a dude of African descent (and he failed). Take another good look at that card - does it even look like Pele?

And I agree that the Alifabolaget is a beautiful card.

Yuppp. That’s another difference from the Clay - the latter’s portrait is quite attractive

The Alfa is just a stunning card. Much sharper image than that of any 50’s Topps set.

[Peter_Spaeth]

delete double post

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Anish

There’s a PSA 1 up right now at auction and I recently upgraded my PSA 2 so I have that one available.



Yuppp. That’s another difference from the Clay - the latter’s portrait is quite attractive

The Alfa is just a stunning card. Much sharper image than that of any 50’s Topps set.

I think a 5 or so is where I am headed but thank you.