Ruth Photo - Type 1

[Shoeless Moe]

or hard to say?


http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...ntoryid=170705


So was it one, can it be told from the markings on the back, or is it not possible to say due to lack of info on the back?

[Leon]

I have limited experience but I don't think that markings on the back are foolproof. I believe there will be a photo dealer in deep doo-doo, very soon, over fraudulently stamping some photos backs.

To me, it looks like a period vintage photo. It might have done better in a different venue.

[Runscott]

I think the Ruth photo collectors spoke with their bidding. If they had been confident, it would have sold for way more.

[sporteq]

20s/30s re-strike IMHO

Albert

[drcy]

You have to see the photo in person to determine. I know what is the issue with this photo and why they worded the description that way with the highly unusual return guarantee, but it's something I'd have to see in person. You can't say just from the images.

Ignoring entirely the writing and stamping, it appears Legendary is confident the itself photo is original and just offering the winner the chance to have someone confirm.

[sporteq]

Originally Posted by drcy

You have to see the photo in person to determine.

Well yeah... I think most ppl are getting the feeling it's NOT 100% period off the negative. We'll probably never know.

Albert

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drcy

You can't say just from the images.

The hammer indicates that there could be something the advanced Ruth collectors know that we don't - before dropping $5-20K on a photo you are going to do a bit more research than those participating in this thread have done (zero on my end). But I agree, nothing I see that gives it away as being anything but original, other than the odd curved trim at the bottom left. Perhaps the stamp or notes are a forger tell.

I am curious how Albert arrived at his fairly exact estimates. Not real curious, but mildly.

[Runscott]

David, the hammer price is nothing for a type I ruth red sox photo, even with fuzzy image and a cut corner.

[Runscott]

The bidders for these ate not some secret cult of experts - but they ARE guys who pay a lot if confident in authenticity (refer back to first sentence in my first post)

[JeremyW]

I'm assuming a member of this forum purchased this photo & is waiting to get the photo in hand before letting us know his findings.

[Runscott]

Jeremy, I'm assuming the winner is NOT a member of this forum, or at least not one of the known early Ruth photo collectors.

[Shoeless Moe]

...with all the photos RMY Auction owners come across they would have something that matches the markings on the back. I know they are board members can you please chime in?

Or if you purchased and don't want to say, then say "no comment."

[ejharrington]

I bid on it but didn't bid aggressively since I was scared off by the fact that all Legendary would have to do is send the photo to PSA or another grading company and get it verified as Type 1. It would have sold for several times what it went for. I was suspicious as to why they and/or the consignor wouldn't have done that.